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View Poll Results: King Carl should have hired?
Herm Edwards 4 5.33%
Mike McCarthy 44 58.67%
Your nominee below 12 16.00%
Fax writes a mean limmerick. Let him decide. 15 20.00%
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Old 01-14-2008, 10:56 AM  
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Hindsight poll: Should King Carl hired Mike McCarthy instead of Herm?
We had our choice of any coach that off season. The Chiefs job was considered the best of all the open NFL jobs.

Should have King Carl hired McCarthy over Herm? Or someone else other than those two former Chiefs assistants?

Is McCarthy getting credit for Farve's rebirth? Is he resonsible for the Packer rebirth?

Is it too early to decide on Herm yet?

Mike McCarthy's resume and Bio from packers.com
http://www.packers.com/team/coaches/mccarthy_mike/

Herm Edwards resume and Bio from the chiefs website.
http://www.kcchiefs.com/coach/herman_edwards/
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Old 01-14-2008, 02:20 PM   #46
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I think the problem lies in the draft as well as the development (lack thereof).
You won't get any argument from me on that point, Mr. Chiefnj2. Then again, I almost asked for someone to pass the koolaid when Sims talked about how nobody with the Chiefs would work with him - you know, to help him get better. Then he goes to the Bucs and gets soundly trampled on every snap.

I would rate those problems something like this; 70% poor drafting/evaluation and 40% poor player development. You have to give 110% to be this bad at it.

By the way, did you ever notice that a "%" sign looks like the numbers "9" and "6" smushed together?

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Old 01-14-2008, 02:22 PM   #47
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At this point, I'd be happier if they had hired Nick "The Erroneous One" Athan instead of Herm.
Wow, Mr. beavis. This is bad.

How long has it been since you've been in the adoring arms of a young, nubile, blonde? Do you have any drugs? Alcohol? Subscription to Hustler?

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Old 01-14-2008, 03:28 PM   #48
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At this point, I'd be happier if they had hired Nick "The Erroneous One" Athan instead of Herm.
He'd still screw up the insider information...
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Old 01-14-2008, 03:41 PM   #49
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In hindsight Dictator Carl should have hired anyone with half a pulse over Herm
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Old 01-14-2008, 04:04 PM   #50
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You raise an interesting point here, Mr. Brock.

What, exactly, is McCarthy doing differently in GB, this year? Some of their younger guys have another season of experience, but other than that, what changes did McCarthy bring?

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He's got the youngest team in the NFL and he's coaching them up. Favre has stated that he'd never studied film or listened to coaches until this past offseason. He wanted to make his (possible) last season memorable.

Additionally, Mac may not have an equal record with Aaron Rodgers at QB but when Rodgers has played this year, he has looked very good.

Green Bay was built properly. A solid GM in Ted Thompson, a young team and a solid coach who preaches sound football.

They're going to be very good for a very long time, regardless of whether or not Favre retires this season.
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Old 01-14-2008, 04:27 PM   #51
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I was for Jeff Fisher at that point, and if he couldn't be pried away, I wanted Mike Singletary.
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Old 01-14-2008, 04:32 PM   #52
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I was for Jeff Fisher at that point, and if he couldn't be pried away, I wanted Mike Singletary.
Still wondering why Singletary isn't a NFL head coach.

And he's not being mentioned thus far this year either, TMK.
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Old 01-14-2008, 04:44 PM   #53
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Old 01-14-2008, 04:45 PM   #54
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I will never understand giving up draft picks to hire a coach. Dumb.
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He's got the youngest team in the NFL and he's coaching them up. Favre has stated that he'd never studied film or listened to coaches until this past offseason. He wanted to make his (possible) last season memorable.

Additionally, Mac may not have an equal record with Aaron Rodgers at QB but when Rodgers has played this year, he has looked very good.

Green Bay was built properly. A solid GM in Ted Thompson, a young team and a solid coach who preaches sound football.

They're going to be very good for a very long time, regardless of whether or not Favre retires this season.
Wow. I'd never heard that (the bolded section), Mr. DaneMcCloud. I guess you could take that a couple of ways - and one of them isn't very favorable to Fa-vah-ra.

Clearly, the Packers have approached things well over the past several seasons in terms of building with youth. Offensively, they have a tremendous advantage in that they have an all-pro, HOF-bound veteran at quarterback, though. That makes a huge difference in how quickly they can get their offense on track - even with young players. It's a little more difficult when your most experienced, veteran guy on offense is the tight end. Nevertheless, we could learn a lot from them.

One thing is obvious, however. As an organization, their ultimate goal isn't to merely have a winning season or make the playoffs. These guys like going to the Super Bowl.

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I'm not sure what is different, but KC should peek at GB's OL ratings for the draft and take whoever GB has marked. IIRC they drafted all of the starting OL and they were 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, and two 7ths. They struck gold and/or developed well while KC's later round OL have come and gone.

On defense they have two unknown DT's, two first round LB's a undrafted safety and two over the hill corners just like KC.
Uh if you have watched them play, it's pretty safe to say that Harris and Woodson are far from over the hill.
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Wonder how everyone would have voted prior to this season when McCarthy went 8-8 as coach of the Pack.
I think I'd have felt pretty good about my team and coach going into the next season if they had started 4-8 and then finished 8-8. Especially with a rookie coach on a team that was expected to struggle.
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