Peter King: Herm will draft Matt Ryan to buy himself another year - Page 4

FloridaMan88 · 03-24-2008, 10:52 AM

I still doubt the Chiefs will take Ryan, but this is an interesting rationale for why they might and this is totally in line with the piece of garbage that Herm is.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...21/mmqb/1.html

Kansas City. Boston College QB Matt Ryan. Just a hunch, though they'll have trouble passing on Michigan offensive tackle Jake Long.

Strange thing here. At the combine, Carl Peterson told me the Chiefs loved Ryan, but there was no way they could take him because of their needs elsewhere. (Offensive line, I'm guessing.) Then they sent half the front office to his workout the other day at BC. Methinks Carl does not want to be the man to pass on the guy he thinks will be a franchise player. The other thing this does is buy coach Herman Edwards one more year of rebuilding. Even if the Chiefs go 5-11 this year, they couldn't whack Edwards until after they got a really good look at Ryan.

suds79 · 03-24-2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Every position plays its role but QB is the single most important position on any team.

Exactly. And that should help determine your draft board by a fair margin IMO.

So if Ryan is the BPA, take him.

Just because the Chiefs could possibly take Ryan in the 1st this year doesn't mean they can't fix the O-line. They absolutely have to draft well in the rest of the rounds for this team to begin to turn it around.

**TrebMaxx** · 03-24-2008, 12:18 PM

All draft picks are a crap shoot. I won't be bothered by who we take with the first as long as it is not classified as a reach which the Chief's FO has a history of doing. I am not sold on Croyle being the QBOTF either. I know he was dealt a bad hand with the turds on the O-line, but he really didn't show me much in his starts, I think he is injury prone and I don't think just having a strong arm is sufficient to be a NFL QB. If its Ryan with the Rnd 1 pick then so be it. I don't think he would be a reach. Could he be a flop, yes, but any draft pick can be a flop no matter where they are picked.

**gblowfish** · 03-24-2008, 12:19 PM

The only thing on the Chiefs mind the next three years is stadium rennovation. They don't care about winning until 4-5 years from now.

Chiefnj2 · 03-24-2008, 12:23 PM

Coming out of college who was better Quinn or Ryan?

If you say Quinn or that they are about even, then why would you take Ryan with a top 15 pick?

**alanm** · 03-24-2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

It doesn't matter who we have at QB if he spends the entire game RUNNING FOR HIS LIFE.

These goddamn idiots better concentrate on the line.

Yes.. The defensive line.

Deberg_1990 · 03-24-2008, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

The only thing on the Chiefs mind the next three years is stadium rennovation. They don't care about winning until 4-5 years from now.

If thats true, then the Qb pick would make sense. Most young QB's dont fully "blossum" until year 3 or 4.

eazyb81 · 03-24-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Coming out of college who was better Quinn or Ryan?

If you say Quinn or that they are about even, then why would you take Ryan with a top 15 pick?

They were about even. Quinn was a great value for the Brown at 22, and the only reason he dropped was because teams didn't really need a QB last year.

You can't look at where a player was drafted and make an accurate conclusion on their value, because every team has different needs.

Mecca · 03-24-2008, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

If thats true, then the Qb pick would make sense. Most young QB's dont fully "blossum" until year 3 or 4.

I still don't think some people fully grasp how bad this team is and how many new players they actually need.

And even if you build a great line, I don't think Croyle would make it 16 games.

eazyb81 · 03-24-2008, 12:32 PM

One other thing to note: Wonderlic scores were recently released and Ryan scored a 32, the highest score out of the QBs.

**alanm** · 03-24-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Who's on your list of players that are "certain to be a great player"?

I don't know about Mecca but off the top of my head would be the 2 Longs followed by Dorsey and Ellis. Ryan is a unknown.

eazyb81 · 03-24-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I still don't think some people fully grasp how bad this team is and how many new players they actually need.

We are going to be awful this year no matter who we pick in the 1st round, whether it's Ryan, Jake Long, or one of the defensive studs.

Mecca · 03-24-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

One other thing to note: Wonderlic scores were recently released and Ryan scored a 32, the highest score out of the QBs.

He'd explain to Herm what plays would work and how passing on 1st down is a good idea, then Herms would make the confused face and tell him he doesn't know what he's talking about.

**jAZ** · 03-24-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

I still doubt the Chiefs will take Ryan, but this is an interesting rationale for why they might and this is totally in line with the piece of garbage that Herm is.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...21/mmqb/1.html

Kansas City. Boston College QB Matt Ryan. Just a hunch, though they'll have trouble passing on Michigan offensive tackle Jake Long.

Strange thing here. At the combine, Carl Peterson told me the Chiefs loved Ryan, but there was no way they could take him because of their needs elsewhere. (Offensive line, I'm guessing.) Then they sent half the front office to his workout the other day at BC. Methinks Carl does not want to be the man to pass on the guy he thinks will be a franchise player. The other thing this does is buy coach Herman Edwards one more year of rebuilding. Even if the Chiefs go 5-11 this year, they couldn't whack Edwards until after they got a really good look at Ryan.

How do you read this article and then claim "Herm will draft Matt Ryan to buy himself another year".

It doesn't even remotely say that.

It says that the Chiefs are in LOVE with him, don't think they can take him, but that CARL doesn't want to pass on him. And that CARL drafting him would have the side affect of Herm getting more time.

Hate Carl. Hate Herm. But don't Hate Facts.

Deberg_1990 · 03-24-2008, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I still don't think some people fully grasp how bad this team is and how many new players they actually need.

Agreed.

This is 1988-89 all over again IMO. Maybe even worse??

A few still act as if its 1997.

Mecca · 03-24-2008, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Agreed.

This is 1988-89 all over again IMO. Maybe even worse??

A few still act as if its 1997.

It's as though they think if the Chiefs draft a couple of lineman this team will make the playoffs.

03-24-2008, 10:52 AM
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