6 picks...and only 1 head scratcher

[the Talking Can]

people aren't thrilled with Cottam....fine, there were other options there

but the other 5 picks are solid BAA and all will contribute in some fashion immediately...

that's much better ratio than we were expecting.....the least pain-inducing 6 picks in Chiefs history...great great VALUE

This is what "sticking to your board" looks like, and how you avoid Bartees, Siaviis, and Wilsons:


Round 1, Pick 5 (5) Glenn Dorsey DT 6'2" 316 LSU
Pick Analysis: Dorsey's dominance should go a long way toward helping Kansas City rebuild its defense. He should command double-teams and the Chiefs become better up the middle instantly. There were some concerns about problems with Dorsey's tibia stress fracture, which may have been the reason he was still on the board at this point. His best traits are outstanding agility and a great motor.


Round 1, Pick 15 (15) (From Lions) Branden Albert OG 6'6" 309 Virginia
Pick Analysis:Albert has the versatility to play guard or tackle in the NFL. He finishes blocks down the field and in space. He started 37 games (35 games at left guard, two at left tackle) for Virginia over three years. Has great overall athletic ability for a big man and could develop into the best offensive lineman in the draft.


Round 2, Pick 4 (35) Brandon Flowers CB 5'10" 189 Virginia Tech
Pick Analysis:With better speed, Flowers would have been a much higher pick. He plays the game faster than his timed speed indicates (4.55). Best traits are good instincts and physical play.


Round 3, Pick 10 (73) (From Broncos through Vikings) Jamaal Charles RB 5'11" 200 Texas
Pick Analysis:The Chiefs take a guy that is likely the best player on their board right now in Charles. He likely fell to the third round due to his lack of strength, but when it comes to speed, he's a break-away back. His playmaking ability makes him a potential situational player that can also catch the ball.


Round 3, Pick 13 (76) (From Lions) Brad Cottam TE 6'8" 270 Tennessee
Pick Analysis:Cottam's problem was the fact that he only started 10 games in five years at Tennessee. He has very impressive size and skills for a tight end to go with speed in the 4.6's. The Chiefs may be looking for a future starter with Tony Gonzalez nearing the end of his career.


Round 3, Pick 19 (82) (From Vikings) DaJuan Morgan S 6'0" 205 North Carolina State
Pick Analysis:Morgan was a one-year starter and raw, but has good athletic ability and potential. He is the type of player who can get better in the pros with good coaching, because of his measurables and potential to develop. He is an excellent special teams player who originally made his mark in the kicking game.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-team|team-kc

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Day 2 of the draft is completely underwhelming.

Sweet Jesus - beyond Day 1, you, me and just about everyone else on this bb have NO freaking idea how underwhelming or overwhelming these picks will be for a while. Relax

[Wilson8]

The Chiefs really have not reached on any of these second day picks. I’ve looked at several rating services and they had all four rated 2nd or 3rd round selections.

Great Blue North Draft Report had Jamaal Charles rated as the highest rated pick going into day two. Walter’s Football said he would normally be a 2nd round pick, but this year with all of the junior running backs coming out it, dropped him into the 3rd round. As others have said you can never have enough running backs. Jamaal was just too much value to pass on.

With Jason Dunn and Kris Wilson, both gone, it was logical for KC to look at tight ends. Much like Jamaal Charles, Brad Cottam at 6’8” 270 lbs and 4.6 forty time, was too tempting to pass on. He has the ability to catch the ball as-well-as block for our runners.

DaJuan Morgan was also a value pick. Mike Mayock had Morgan rated as the 2nd best free safety in the draft. With Greg Wesley wanting to be traded or released, it makes sense for the Chiefs to try and address that position. He is a good football player that can start for the Chiefs. It is always good to have competition at positions and this makes Kansas City better at the safety position.

Will Franklin from Missouri was rated as a 3rd round pick (we got him in the 4th). His size and speed will allow him to compete with Davard Darling and Jeff Webb for a starting position with KC.

Now my concerns…we still have so many holes to fill at defensive end and offensive line. I was also hoping to use some of the later round pick for selections like kicker, extra cornerback, linebacker, and fullback. Instead we almost have to use them for offensive line and defensive end. At 3rd and 4th round a team can still pick up some good value at the offensive line position. Our normal late round offensive linemen picks have not been that helpful.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

Sweet Jesus - beyond Day 1, you, me and just about everyone else on this bb have NO freaking idea how underwhelming or overwhelming these picks will be for a while. Relax

QFT

After the first day, it's a crap shoot. Let these guys show up in camp and lets see what we have.

[markk]

if you are a starving man in africa with a starving family back at your home, do you walk up to the food aid truck and pick over everything trying to come up with meal plans? fuck no you grab all food you carry and sort it out later. once you are not dying of malnourishment you can worry about what wine goes with tilapia

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

Sweet Jesus - beyond Day 1, you, me and just about everyone else on this bb have NO freaking idea how underwhelming or overwhelming these picks will be for a while. Relax

I didn't realize it was Homers Only Sunday. Yay, they are all great picks, can I join the club now?

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I didn't realize it was Homers Only Sunday. Yay, they are all great picks, can I join the club now?

You are already in the biggest fkn club on this bb. The knee-jerk, uninformed, know-it-all clan. Congrats!

[NaptownChief]

Hard not to like the guys they have picked. Assuming they know best on the positions of need and I were to stay with the same positions in the same rounds the only thing I would have probably done different is take Tom Zibikowski over Morgan but Morgan seems like a solid pick based on what I have read.

Franklin is a great size/speed combo but I never like skilled position players that have great size/speed combinations and can't translate it to dominate performance at the college level. If you can't dominate at the college level being one of the biggest and fastest guys on the field than that usually tells me you don't have the football intagibles to play at the NFL level. It is very rare that a player with great measurables but didn't perform at a really high level in college that goes on to be a really good NFL player.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by NaptownChief

Hard not to like the guys they have picked. Assuming they know best on the positions of need and I were to stay with the same positions in the same rounds the only thing I would have probably done different is take Tom Zibikowski over Morgan but Morgan seems like a solid pick based on what I have read.

Franklin is a great size/speed combo but I never like skilled position players that have great size/speed combinations and can't translate it to dominate performance at the college level. If you can't dominate at the college level being one of the biggest and fastest guys on the field than that usually tells me you don't have the football intagibles to play at the NFL level. It is very rare that a player with great measurables but didn't perform at a really high level in college that goes on to be a really good NFL player.

Daniel also had 5 other targets and it was a spread offense, possibly why he didnt have more yardage

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Learn it.

Know it.

Live it.

And there aren't a lot of projects either. These were guys that for the most part where valued where we picked them and all of them have the chance to start or improve the depth at their positions.

We took value over need more in the 3rd but we got good value. And I ecstatic we waited until the 3rd to draft our annual safety...

[Coach]

Originally Posted by NaptownChief

Hard not to like the guys they have picked. Assuming they know best on the positions of need and I were to stay with the same positions in the same rounds the only thing I would have probably done different is take Tom Zibikowski over Morgan but Morgan seems like a solid pick based on what I have read.

Franklin is a great size/speed combo but I never like skilled position players that have great size/speed combinations and can't translate it to dominate performance at the college level. If you can't dominate at the college level being one of the biggest and fastest guys on the field than that usually tells me you don't have the football intagibles to play at the NFL level. It is very rare that a player with great measurables but didn't perform at a really high level in college that goes on to be a really good NFL player.

Whoever the team grabbed Zibikowski, reached, IMHO. Morgan > Zibikowski.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by Huffman83

Upon doing my homework on Jamaal Charles RB, strength is a main concern. For his size you would think he would run over people but it's said he has excellent speed and cut-back ability. He's also got kick return ability.

Sounds a lot like McFadden.

[NaptownChief]

Originally Posted by Coach

Whoever the team grabbed Zibikowski, reached, IMHO. Morgan > Zibikowski.

We will see...But I bet Zibs does quite well for himself. Why do you say he is a reach in the 3rd round?

Because he is a white guy playing a DB position I'm sure the typical bias is to assume he isn't a good athlete but that is far from the truth.

[NaptownChief]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Daniel also had 5 other targets and it was a spread offense, possibly why he didnt have more yardage

IU runs a spread offense and probably the deepest talent on the team was at WR and yet it didn't stop James Hardy from dominating and posting big numbers. That is what a big kid with great speed should do at the college level. I only watched parts of two games this year with Mizzou so I can't speak much to their situation but history has told me that true NFL talent at the WR position usually dominates at the college level....to that point there are a lot of college WR's that dominate at the college level that don't even come close to having NFL talent.

Just going off experience I'm guessing this was nothing more than getting caught up in the size/speed measurements and overlooking football shortcomings but I certainly could be wrong.

[markk]

Originally Posted by NaptownChief

IU runs a spread offense and probably the deepest talent on the team was at WR and yet it didn't stop James Hardy from dominating and posting big numbers. That is what a big kid with great speed should do at the college level. I only watched parts of two games this year with Mizzou so I can't speak much to their situation but history has told me that true NFL talent at the WR position usually dominates at the college level....to that point there are a lot of college WR's that dominate at the college level that don't even come close to having NFL talent.

Just going off experience I'm guessing this was nothing more than getting caught up in the size/speed measurements and overlooking football shortcomings but I certainly could be wrong.

The had at least 4 guys in the passing offense who are true nfl talent.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by NaptownChief

We will see...But I bet Zibs does quite well for himself. Why do you say he is a reach in the 3rd round?

Because he is a white guy playing a DB position I'm sure the typical bias is to assume he isn't a good athlete but that is far from the truth.

No, not becuase of what you mentioned. I just think his value is better in 4th than 3rd.

Either way, I'm glad that the Chiefs got Morgan over Zibs. I think Morgan is the perfect S for the Cover 2 defense.