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Old 07-21-2008, 01:22 PM  
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Shockey traded to the Saints

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8364800?MSNHPHMA

Sources: Giants to trade Shockey to Saints

The Giants have agreed to trade their disgruntled tight end to the New Orleans Saints for a second-round pick and a fifth-round pick, FOXSports.com has learned. The deal is pending league approval, according to a league source. Shockey must also pass a physical.

The compensation is the same the Saints offered New York back in April prior and during to the draft ... and it was turned down.

The move comes one day after Jason Taylor was traded from Miami to New York's NFC East rivals in Washington. According to a report on SI.com, the Giants had held discussions about a three-team trade in which they would have ended up with Taylor, the Saints would have landed Shockey and the Dolphins would have received a pair of draft picks.

The emergence of rookie Kevin Boss during the Giants' improbable Super Bowl run — a stretch Shockey missed due to a broken leg — made Shockey expendable. Boss started six games after Shockey's injury (two regular season and all four during the Giants' postseason run), making nine catches for 140 yards and a TD.


Shockey's attitude made the move somewhat necessary as the Giants sought to avoid distractions from their bid to repeat as Super Bowl champions.

During the team's recent minicamp, Shockey reportedly engaged in a shouting match with GM Jerry Reese, just the latest controversy involving the outspoken former first-round pick out of the University of Miami.

Shockey's absence in Phoenix during the Super Bowl was conspicuous to say the least. According to some reports, one of the many sources of Shockey's displeasure with the team was that he was not allowed to stand on the team's sidelines during the game.

In the past, Shockey also had less-than-complimentary things to say about his quarterback, Eli Manning. In fact, many have theorized that Manning's transformation from a middle-of-the-pack quarterback to a Super Bowl MVP was facilitated by Shockey's absence.
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Old 07-21-2008, 03:08 PM   #46
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I'm surprised it didn't happen on draft day.

Good move for NY, dumb for NO in my opinion. I think Shockey is a POS.
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A lot of teams didn't like this years draft class all that much.

Maybe Shockey will grow up in NO. He was not a team player in NY.
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Old 07-21-2008, 03:10 PM   #47
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Shouldnt he be washed up by now? According to your theory?
Show me his ridiculous carry year.......as much as the Saints pass and the fact that he's always had another back with him from Ricky Williams to Reggie Bush even with his injuries he doesn't have a ton of mileage.
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Old 07-21-2008, 03:10 PM   #48
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What did that teach us?

Oh yea reaching for need sucks because we have nothing to show for all those drafts right now..
Well our drafting was garbage for a long stretch of time that is for sure...I didn't know if you were lobbying for them to go out and get a big time wideout in trades or free agency or you meant the draft. I will agree it was dumb if we passed on a wideout for those trash defenders, but I don't remember who was available at the time.
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Old 07-21-2008, 03:13 PM   #49
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Well our drafting was garbage for a long stretch of time that is for sure...I didn't know if you were lobbying for them to go out and get a big time wideout in trades or free agency or you meant the draft. I will agree it was dumb if we passed on a wideout for those trash defenders, but I don't remember who was available at the time.
I can think of a ton of picks that made me mad...
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Old 07-21-2008, 03:17 PM   #50
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I can think of a ton of picks that made me mad...
Yes there was quite a few head scratchers. What players did we pass on that hurt the most?
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Old 07-21-2008, 03:18 PM   #51
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How about Junior Siavii instead of Karlos Dansby....
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Old 07-21-2008, 03:22 PM   #52
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How about Junior Siavii instead of Karlos Dansby....
Good example. Junior was the definition of a reach and of a fat turd...Dansby has come along nicely.
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:19 PM   #53
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This should open up a lot of passing lanes for those other WR's.

I can see this offense being very powerful in the coming season... They have a coach that believes in scoring TD's over FG's.
If he stays healthy..
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:23 PM   #54
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Show me his ridiculous carry year.......as much as the Saints pass and the fact that he's always had another back with him from Ricky Williams to Reggie Bush even with his injuries he doesn't have a ton of mileage.
He hasnt had a ton of carries the past few years but...

Going into his 8th year. Hes nearly 30, hes been injured alot the past 3 or 4 years.
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:37 PM   #55
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How about Junior Siavii instead of Karlos Dansby....
yup,that's one of many... I remember when we made that pick. I had never even heard of the guy at the time,what a waste of a pick that was.
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:45 PM   #56
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yup,that's one of many... I remember when we made that pick. I had never even heard of the guy at the time,what a waste of a pick that was.
It is my firm belief that, overall, since DT, Carl could have made better draft selections by counting the bubbles in a bucket of rancid piss.

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Old 07-22-2008, 10:31 PM   #57
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Old 07-23-2008, 01:18 AM   #58
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Shockey will do fine in Sean Payton's offense at New Orleans -- He should put up good numbers. That's until he doesn't get the ball enough. Then he'll become a cancer.

Shockey's first two seasons with the Giants were great. After his injury in 2003, he was never the same. There were glimpses of greatness, but it all came in his rookie year. I think he caught 65-70 balls that year. He never played a full 16 game season. He was out injured. The last two years he dropped more balls than he caught. Shockey was a TE who wanted to be a WR and hated to block. He told (GM) Reese and Coughlin that he would sit out this season if they didn't change the offense back. Can you imagine? lol

Understand this a team that played and won the most important games without him. Shockey's antics and shouting wore out Eli, the Giants and the NY media. More importantly, Eli's QB rating went up 30% once Shockey broke his leg at the beginning of December. No more forced throws. No more interceptions. Eli's balls were thrown on target all over the field.

Trent Difler said all that arm waving and complaining Shockey did hurt Mannings development. He was right. Half of Eli's picks were a result of Shockey running bad routes. There were a couple of times Shockey ran a few good ones. But take a long look at at how many big catches Shockey made and how many penalties he cost the team.

The bottom line, this is Eli Manning's team, not Shockey's team. His huge overrated ego couldn't except that.

Good riddance.

Please let him pass his physical or we get him back.

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Old 07-23-2008, 02:15 AM   #59
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I hope Shockey thrives in NO. He was an amazing talent in college, but I think the New York media killed him. Maybe in a smaller market, with argueably more talent around him, he will become the all around reciever he should have been all along.
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