NFL Draft Draftniks... Who are top 10 prospects to watch this College Football season? - Page 4

teedubya · 07-27-2008, 05:57 PM

Who do you think will be in the top ten draftwise next April?

Direckshun · 07-27-2008, 10:46 PM

My favorites right now at positions we'll need, assuming we have a Top 5 pick:

QB:

1. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
2. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
3. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
4. Matt Stafford, Georgia
5. Cullen Harper, Clemson

DE:

1. Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech
2. Greg Middleton, Indiana

WR:

1. Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech

MLB:

1. Rey Maualuga, USC
2. James Laurinaitis, Ohio State

SS:

1. Taylor Mays, USC

In all, here are my preferences.

1. QB Sam Bradford
2. WR Michael Crabtree
3. QB Matt Stafford
4. MLB Rey Maualuga
5. DE Michael Johnson
6. OT Michael Oher (I know I didn't list OT, because I'm not yet sure it's a position of need.)
7. OT Andre Smith (ditto)
8. SS Taylor Mays (devaluing of safties be damned!)
9. QB Cullen Harper
10. MLB James Laurinaitis

Nightfyre · 07-27-2008, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Why? Should I enjoy the Glass family slamming deeznutz in a door for the past decade or so? I'm not sick, man.

You like the YANKMEES? Ugh. Jeter is certainly an exception to their ilk, however. I'll give you that.

Mecca · 07-27-2008, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Why? Should I enjoy the Glass family slamming deeznutz in a door for the past decade or so? I'm not sick, man.

For some reason it's forbidden to like coastal teams if you live here even though we have several Chiefs fans on this very forum who are from California..

Mecca · 07-27-2008, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

My favorites right now at positions we'll need, assuming we have a Top 5 pick:

QB:

1. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
2. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
3. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
4. Matt Stafford, Georgia
5. Cullen Harper, Clemson

DE:

1. Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech
2. Greg Middleton, Indiana

WR:

1. Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech

MLB:

1. Rey Maualuga, USC
2. James Laurinaitis, Ohio State

SS:

1. Taylor Mays, USC

In all, here are my preferences.

1. QB Sam Bradford
2. WR Michael Crabtree
3. QB Matt Stafford
4. MLB Rey Maualuga
5. DE Michael Johnson
6. OT Michael Oher (I know I didn't list OT, because I'm not yet sure it's a position of need.)
7. OT Andre Smith (ditto)
8. SS Taylor Mays (devaluing of safties be damned!)
9. QB Cullen Harper
10. MLB James Laurinaitis

I'm going to be honest with you here......I think William Moore is almost as good as Taylor Mays so you should list both of them.

I also feel Brandon Spikes is a much better MLB option for our team than JL is.

Nightfyre · 07-27-2008, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

For some reason it's forbidden to like coastal teams if you live here even though we have several Chiefs fans on this very forum who are from California..

I just can't see being a fan of the Royals or even BASEBALL for that matter and still like the Yankees. I mean, talk about abuse of the large market.

Direckshun · 07-27-2008, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm going to be honest with you here......I think William Moore is almost as good as Taylor Mays so you should list both of them.

I also feel Brandon Spikes is a much better MLB option for our team than JL is.

The second point is fair. I don't think JL fits our system, but he's too talented if we end up at like, #12 or something and he's still there.

Moore is a great option as well but if Mays' measurables come through, it's over. A 4.3 safety that big in the Cover 2. It's over.

**DeezNutz** · 07-27-2008, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

You like the YANKMEES? Ugh. Jeter is certainly an exception to their ilk, however. I'll give you that.

Since 2001 they've been a different team. I'm thinking more of the late-90's version. I wish the Royals had someone as talented as a Derek Jeter and as tough as a Paul O'Neil...Don't get me wrong, I'm a Royals fan first, but when the team didn't even try to win for so long...well, this is a different subject entirely.

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Originally Posted by Mecca

For some reason it's forbidden to like coastal teams if you live here even though we have several Chiefs fans on this very forum who are from California..

True. KC has a complex with this. The "no respect" card.

Mecca · 07-27-2008, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

The second point is fair. I don't think JL fits our system, but he's too talented if we end up at like, #12 or something and he's still there.

Moore is a great option as well but if Mays' measurables come through, it's over. A 4.3 safety that big in the Cover 2. It's over.

Well you don't really have to sell me on Mays I know he's 6'3 225 and can run, he just needs a really productive year but it's hard to get that surrounded by other NFL talent, but yes he'd make a hell of a SS for our team.

Here's the thing if the Chiefs are picking top 5 it limits options, 1 I don't think Bradford is coming out, Michael Crabtree is probably going to be the best player in the draft...

Also George Selvie should get listed by you he's undersized yes but the cover 2 is all about undersized speed players and that is what he is and he gets to the QB.

I don't think JL should even be on the Chiefs board, he isn't good in coverage and in no way fits our scheme, he would be a bad pick.

Direckshun · 07-27-2008, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Well you don't really have to sell me on Mays I know he's 6'3 225 and can run, he just needs a really productive year but it's hard to get that surrounded by other NFL talent, but yes he'd make a hell of a SS for our team.

Here's the thing if the Chiefs are picking top 5 it limits options, 1 I don't think Bradford is coming out, Michael Crabtree is probably going to be the best player in the draft...

Also George Selvie should get listed by you he's undersized yes but the cover 2 is all about undersized speed players and that is what he is and he gets to the QB.

It's USF. The only players I've liked on that USF squad were the corners.

Color me biased. We'll see him this year.

Mecca · 07-27-2008, 10:58 PM

There are several players that could improve the Chiefs a great deal that no one really talks about or that won't be really high picks....

Like no one talks about Malcolm Jenkins, if the Chiefs end up with like the 8th pick you basically don't have much choice but to make that pick.

Direckshun · 07-27-2008, 10:59 PM

If Bradford comes out, we should just trade up to #1 and grab him. The kid's going to skyrocket in this league if his freshman year wasn't a fluke.

After that, I actually believe Oher's the best player in this Draft, but we may not need LT like we'll need an additional WR. Crabtree might push Bowe for #1 duties by his second year. Not only does having two elites make your run game better, but all of a sudden your backup WRs start looking a looooooooooot better. Crabtree would be my first pick.

After that, Maualuga would be the safe choice but Stafford wins it for me if (a.) he continues to play extremely tough, and (b.) Brodie misses a chunk of games this year due to injury.

If we somehow win enough games to pick at #5 again, I'd have us consider Michael Johnson, who's an incredible athlete off the edge, or either one of those elite OTs, and move Albert to OG or RT (which is why I hated drafting him in the 1st).

Direckshun · 07-27-2008, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

There are several players that could improve the Chiefs a great deal that no one really talks about or that won't be really high picks....

Like no one talks about Malcolm Jenkins, if the Chiefs end up with like the 8th pick you basically don't have much choice but to make that pick.

Aren't you the "you don't need elite corners in Cover 2" guy?

I'm almost sure I've had that conversation with you about 9,000,000 times.

Mecca · 07-27-2008, 11:01 PM

I don't think they should take a MLB with a top 5 pick.....you can get Beckworth or Spikes at the top of round 2 and be just as good...

If they're in the top 5 it has to be a OT, DE, QB or WR....

Personally if they do have the 1st pick it's Crabtree he's got everything you want.

Mecca · 07-27-2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Aren't you the "you don't need elite corners in Cover 2" guy?

I'm almost sure I've had that conversation with you about 9,000,000 times.

Yes but at the same time that is a valuable position and when you get stuck in a slot like 8 you take the best remaining player.....I do believe he will slide to between 8-12 and get jumped by Vontae Davis when a guy who was well thought of returns for another year it only hurts them, they are to well known and seen to much so all that people point out is their mistakes and flaws.

Nightfyre · 07-27-2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't think they should take a MLB with a top 5 pick.....you can get Beckworth or Spikes at the top of round 2 and be just as good...

If they're in the top 5 it has to be a OT, DE, QB or WR....

Personally if they do have the 1st pick it's Crabtree he's got everything you want.

If spikes would legitimately drop all the way to the second round (or at least within firing distance) I would love that value.

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07-27-2008, 10:46 PM	#46
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4183447	My favorites right now at positions we'll need, assuming we have a Top 5 pick: QB: 1. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma 2. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma 3. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma 4. Matt Stafford, Georgia 5. Cullen Harper, Clemson DE: 1. Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech 2. Greg Middleton, Indiana WR: 1. Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech MLB: 1. Rey Maualuga, USC 2. James Laurinaitis, Ohio State SS: 1. Taylor Mays, USC In all, here are my preferences. 1. QB Sam Bradford 2. WR Michael Crabtree 3. QB Matt Stafford 4. MLB Rey Maualuga 5. DE Michael Johnson 6. OT Michael Oher (I know I didn't list OT, because I'm not yet sure it's a position of need.) 7. OT Andre Smith (ditto) 8. SS Taylor Mays (devaluing of safties be damned!) 9. QB Cullen Harper 10. MLB James Laurinaitis
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07-27-2008, 10:58 PM	#55
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2337050	There are several players that could improve the Chiefs a great deal that no one really talks about or that won't be really high picks.... Like no one talks about Malcolm Jenkins, if the Chiefs end up with like the 8th pick you basically don't have much choice but to make that pick.
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07-27-2008, 10:59 PM	#56
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4183447	If Bradford comes out, we should just trade up to #1 and grab him. The kid's going to skyrocket in this league if his freshman year wasn't a fluke. After that, I actually believe Oher's the best player in this Draft, but we may not need LT like we'll need an additional WR. Crabtree might push Bowe for #1 duties by his second year. Not only does having two elites make your run game better, but all of a sudden your backup WRs start looking a looooooooooot better. Crabtree would be my first pick. After that, Maualuga would be the safe choice but Stafford wins it for me if (a.) he continues to play extremely tough, and (b.) Brodie misses a chunk of games this year due to injury. If we somehow win enough games to pick at #5 again, I'd have us consider Michael Johnson, who's an incredible athlete off the edge, or either one of those elite OTs, and move Albert to OG or RT (which is why I hated drafting him in the 1st).
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07-27-2008, 11:01 PM	#58
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2337050	I don't think they should take a MLB with a top 5 pick.....you can get Beckworth or Spikes at the top of round 2 and be just as good... If they're in the top 5 it has to be a OT, DE, QB or WR.... Personally if they do have the 1st pick it's Crabtree he's got everything you want.
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