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View Poll Results: Would you have fired Herm?
Yes, three games is enough 40 55.56%
If we lose X more games 4 5.56%
Let's see how this season plays out 27 37.50%
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Old 09-27-2008, 02:09 PM   #1
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I don't see how ANYONE could have watched that Indy playoff game, and defend Herm after that.

Edit: in other words, a lot of you guys are very late to the party.
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Old 09-27-2008, 03:51 PM   #2
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To answer the question, Herm isn't gone because ownership has patience and realizes that he shouldn't be judged over the Tyler Thigpen fiasco.

Hehe,

I cant wait till these bums are fired then you can unload on them.

I understand you dont want to lose your press pass.
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Old 09-27-2008, 03:49 PM   #3
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Herm is a very dumb coach-can't clock manage and chokes when the game is on the line. Not one player is buying into his coaching or we would not have lost so many in a row.
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Old 09-27-2008, 04:01 PM   #4
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How could any coach worth a shit-go into a season without a proven QB, Backup QB or any other QB????

Damon should have been shitcanned- Brodie has never won a game and the Pigpen should not have been in the NFL.
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Old 09-27-2008, 04:13 PM   #5
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He should have been fired after his first year. Of course, I would have fired the sonofabitch after the Pittsburgh game in year one...
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Old 09-27-2008, 05:06 PM   #6
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Firing a headcoach midseason isn't generally a positive for a franchise, particularly if he's in year 1 of a rebuild.
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Old 09-27-2008, 10:13 PM   #7
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Firing a headcoach midseason isn't generally a positive for a franchise, particularly if he's in year 1 of a rebuild.
You aren't in year 1 of a rebuild when the coach has been saying from the first year that he was here that he wanted to remake this team, that the old way of doing things wasn't getting it done. He has remade this team in his own image. Unfortunately that image is wearing polyester leisure suits from the 70s.
Trying to pretend there are positives when you're the joke of the league isn't a positive either.
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Old 09-27-2008, 10:48 PM   #8
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You aren't in year 1 of a rebuild when the coach has been saying from the first year that he was here that he wanted to remake this team, that the old way of doing things wasn't getting it done. He has remade this team in his own image. Unfortunately that image is wearing polyester leisure suits from the 70s.
It's pretty clear the front office wasn't backing any kind of a rebuild in 2006 or 2007. 2008 on the other hand, was was not a Carl Peterson style offseason in any way, shape or form.
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Who said anything positive? All I said was that firing a coach midseason wasn't generally a good thing. What exactly would it do to make the team better?

Knee jerk reaction, that's all it would be. And it's not happening anyway. Herm wouldn't be here now if they hadn't intended from the outset to give him plenty of rope to hang himself with. They're not going to dump him after 3 or 4 games of a publicly acknowledged rebuild.

And saying that is not in any way supporting Herm, it's just facing reality.
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Old 09-27-2008, 05:52 PM   #9
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Whatever, Skip. I made a pledge before the season began to be positive. I'm sticking to that. Just because Tyler Thigpen is capable of making any NFL head coach look dumb is no reason to do an about face. Then you'd just accuse me of flip-flopping, right?
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Old 09-27-2008, 05:54 PM   #10
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Whatever, Skip. I made a pledge before the season began to be positive. I'm sticking to that. Just because Tyler Thigpen is capable of making any NFL head coach look dumb is no reason to do an about face. Then you'd just accuse me of flip-flopping, right?
You've already made a huge ass of yourself. You can't get much worse.
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Old 09-27-2008, 05:58 PM   #11
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Whatever, Skip. I made a pledge before the season began to be positive. I'm sticking to that. Just because Tyler Thigpen is capable of making any NFL head coach look dumb is no reason to do an about face. Then you'd just accuse me of flip-flopping, right?
I wouldn't call not flip-flopping honorable by any means, but you've done it a couple of times with Herm, so not flip-flopping is better than jumping to the other side of the fence again.

That said, you should have stayed on this side to begin with.
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Old 09-27-2008, 10:15 PM   #12
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Whatever, Skip. I made a pledge before the season began to be positive. I'm sticking to that. Just because Tyler Thigpen is capable of making any NFL head coach look dumb is no reason to do an about face. Then you'd just accuse me of flip-flopping, right?
Herm looked dumb long before he stuck Thigpen in the backfield.
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Herm looked dumb long before he stuck Thigpen in the backfield.
Oh, I disagree.
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Oh, I disagree.
Oh you disagree huh? YOU DISAGREE? Please address the following:

Somehow calling 2 timeouts (What the shit?)

Going with a kicker who has "NFL experience", and promptly blows a 26 yard kick in game 3 over a young guy who made just as many kicks

RUNNING THE ****ING OPTION

Resigning Kyle goddamned Turley

Playing Damian McIntosh

Not somehow getting a capable backup for if Brodie goes down

Running up the middle time after time after time after time after time for 9,000 straight plays.

Not firing the Special Teams coach

the Boomer FB Experiment

The Kris Wilson FB Experiment

RUNNING THE ****ING OPTION (it bears repeating)

Alfonso Boone at LDE

Adrian Jones with the Youth Movement occurring

Running Larry Johnson 416 times

Starting Damon Huard in 2007

Having the Best TE ever to play the game running goddamned 2 yard outs

Running a Goddamned Draw play on 3rd and 12 with 3 minutes left in the
game against Peyton in Peytons house when your QBOTF is playing well and you are supposed to be "seeing what he has"

That's not even 1% of all the dumbass shit he has done/continues to do. Herm is a worthless ass sack of ****ing moronic chickenshit coach that is too much of a giant gaping vagina to ever take enough of a risk to win any game of substance.

I admit it. I had hope for the guy up until the 2007 Indy game. I could make excuses for that sack of shit up to that point, but it is absolutely hilarious to me that people are still defending this chickenshit epic fail after RUNNING THE OPTION. Rediculous.
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Old 09-29-2008, 09:19 AM   #15
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Oh you disagree huh? YOU DISAGREE? Please address the following:

Somehow calling 2 timeouts (What the shit?)

Going with a kicker who has "NFL experience", and promptly blows a 26 yard kick in game 3 over a young guy who made just as many kicks

RUNNING THE ****ING OPTION

Resigning Kyle goddamned Turley

Playing Damian McIntosh

Not somehow getting a capable backup for if Brodie goes down

Running up the middle time after time after time after time after time for 9,000 straight plays.

Not firing the Special Teams coach

the Boomer FB Experiment

The Kris Wilson FB Experiment

RUNNING THE ****ING OPTION (it bears repeating)

Alfonso Boone at LDE

Adrian Jones with the Youth Movement occurring

Running Larry Johnson 416 times

Starting Damon Huard in 2007

Having the Best TE ever to play the game running goddamned 2 yard outs

Running a Goddamned Draw play on 3rd and 12 with 3 minutes left in the
game against Peyton in Peytons house when your QBOTF is playing well and you are supposed to be "seeing what he has"

That's not even 1% of all the dumbass shit he has done/continues to do. Herm is a worthless ass sack of ****ing moronic chickenshit coach that is too much of a giant gaping vagina to ever take enough of a risk to win any game of substance.

I admit it. I had hope for the guy up until the 2007 Indy game. I could make excuses for that sack of shit up to that point, but it is absolutely hilarious to me that people are still defending this chickenshit epic fail after RUNNING THE OPTION. Rediculous.
Damn B, Nice to see you come out strong on this one... Not surprised that Clayton doesnt have the sack to rebuttle this.

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