Royals Speculation about Zack Greinke being traded to the Braves - Page 4

Sam Hall · 11-26-2008, 06:21 PM

This is from another board. It sounds like Greinke isn't crazy about signing a long-term deal in KC. The four players the Royals would get seem legit. Escobar seems to be the key to the deal. He and Reyes are said to be immediate contributors. Schafer and Flowers aren't far behind.

Royals receive

OF Jordan Schafer or Gorkys Hernandez
SS Yunel Escobar
LHP Jo Jo Reyes or RHP Charlie Morton or LHP Jeff Locke
C Tyler Flowers

Braves receive: Zack Greinke

eazyb81 · 11-26-2008, 09:22 PM

Ah, so basically it's pure speculation.

KChiefs1 · 11-26-2008, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Ah, so basically it's pure speculation.

exactly

Sure-Oz · 11-26-2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Dude, this deal is unimaginably good for KC.

Schaefer is the best prospect in their entire system, and Hernandez is right there with him. combine that with Yunel Escobar, and that alone is worth more than Greinke.

Jo-Jo Reyes has good stuff, and he's a lefty. He was one of the Braves best prospects as well.

I just can't imagine that this trade is for real. If so, you should bronze Moore's dick.

Morton is a AAAA guy in my opinion

Agreed, i would do this deal only if Grienke doesn't want to be part of this team. I just don't see him wanting to stay beyond this year...i'd hope we could get this kind of haul, it may set us back for NEXT year but set us up bigtime for the future. I'd hate to lose Zack, but if we have no choice we have to take the best offer, id love for this to be it.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 11-27-2008, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

Am I missing something? Is Greinke that good?

Yes. Put him on a team that gave him run support last year.... Cy Young candidate.

Demonpenz · 11-27-2008, 01:24 AM

Grienke has 2 A pitches and one solid b and is able to change speeds and field his position well. That head scares me a bit, but he is still really young (same age as hochaver)

beavis · 11-27-2008, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Ah, so basically it's pure speculation.

That website belongs to the guy that does the post game show for the Royals. He posts over at the scout board a lot. He's fairly well connected. I don't think he's suggesting that Greinke would fetch all of those players in a trade. If the Braves are dumb enough to do it, you pull the trigger before they come to their senses.

**wazu** · 11-27-2008, 08:58 AM

This is what makes following the Royals so tiresome. We spend years suffering through developing these players and then let them go once they turn into stars.

What do we get in return? A bunch of "prospects" that we will do the exact same thing with. All with some vague hope that one day all the prospects will suddently "hit" at the exact same time and we might have a winning record for one year before losing them all and falling back into the baseball abyss.

The Chiefs seem to have adopted the same approach. Who is our most talented young player? Why that would be Jared Allen, arguably the league's best pass-rusher. What should we do with him? Why, trade him! We will get Jamaal Charles, Jajuan Morgan, and Brandon Albert! Now THAT'S how you build a Championship team, baby!

WilliamTheIrish · 11-27-2008, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam

This is what makes following the Royals so tiresome. We spend years suffering through developing these players and then let them go once they turn into stars....

For those players, I'd trade ZG in nanosecond.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-27-2008, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam

This is what makes following the Royals so tiresome. We spend years suffering through developing these players and then let them go once they turn into stars.

What do we get in return? A bunch of "prospects" that we will do the exact same thing with. All with some vague hope that one day all the prospects will suddently "hit" at the exact same time and we might have a winning record for one year before losing them all and falling back into the baseball abyss.

The Chiefs seem to have adopted the same approach. Who is our most talented young player? Why that would be Jared Allen, arguably the league's best pass-rusher. What should we do with him? Why, trade him! We will get Jamaal Charles, Jajuan Morgan, and Brandon Albert! Now THAT'S how you build a Championship team, baby!

Jesus, you're a moron.

Sam Hall · 11-27-2008, 10:05 AM

It's fun to speculate and it seems like very few Royals are safe from the rumors. I have two problems with this:

1. The Braves' system might be loaded, but they need those guys to help the big league team.

2. Why does it always have to be Atlanta in connection with Dayton Moore deals?

eazyb81 · 11-27-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by beavis

That website belongs to the guy that does the post game show for the Royals. He posts over at the scout board a lot. He's fairly well connected. I don't think he's suggesting that Greinke would fetch all of those players in a trade. If the Braves are dumb enough to do it, you pull the trigger before they come to their senses.

Yeah, I know it's tanana over on the scout board and he is on 610, but has he ever provided a scoop on a trade before? Sure, the guy has more inside info than a regular fan, but it still seems like he's just speculating and I don't remember him breaking any Royals news before.

Wreckloose · 11-27-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You would be getting a SS (Escobar), the Braves best prospect, a catcher with power, and a starting pitcher.

Keep in mind, this is more than was being offered by the Braves for Jake Peavy, which is why I doubt its veracity.

I think Heyward and Hanson are their top prospects. Those are the guys that were considered untouchable in Peavy talks.

Hammock Parties · 11-27-2008, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

Am I missing something? Is Greinke that good?

uh yah, he's good my friend. Top 5 in strikeouts, great era, and is always going to get you at least 7 innings. Apparently you havent seen him pitch other than what they show on espn

Hammock Parties · 11-27-2008, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Watch they'll take some of the shittier Braves prospects it'll be like that trade for Kyle Davies.

remember what we gave up for him? octavio dotel... yah, how is that a bad trade?

beavis · 11-27-2008, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawkerman2001

remember what we gave up for him? octavio dotel... yah, how is that a bad trade?

Because people think we should be able to trade TPJ for ARod.

11-26-2008, 06:21 PM
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wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $-1527705 VARSITY	This is what makes following the Royals so tiresome. We spend years suffering through developing these players and then let them go once they turn into stars. What do we get in return? A bunch of "prospects" that we will do the exact same thing with. All with some vague hope that one day all the prospects will suddently "hit" at the exact same time and we might have a winning record for one year before losing them all and falling back into the baseball abyss. The Chiefs seem to have adopted the same approach. Who is our most talented young player? Why that would be Jared Allen, arguably the league's best pass-rusher. What should we do with him? Why, trade him! We will get Jamaal Charles, Jajuan Morgan, and Brandon Albert! Now THAT'S how you build a Championship team, baby!
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Sam Hall UNSTOPPABLE Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: KC area Casino cash: $9895185	It's fun to speculate and it seems like very few Royals are safe from the rumors. I have two problems with this: 1. The Braves' system might be loaded, but they need those guys to help the big league team. 2. Why does it always have to be Atlanta in connection with Dayton Moore deals? __________________
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