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Old 01-07-2009, 11:03 PM  
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Lions beat writer thinks there's ZERO chance they draft Stafford

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf...show_tita.html

Click the audio link after the story and fast-forward to the 7:10 mark.

Detroit Lions beat writer Tom Kowalski thinks there is ZERO chance that Stafford will be the pick, and thinks it's a "coin-flip" that they take a QB at all.

According to him, the personnel guys he's spoken with feel that Stafford may end up being the 3rd QB taken if Sanchez declares.

Also, Jim Schwartz is the lead candidate for the Lions HC job.

Interesting listen from 7:00 on...
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:25 AM   #46
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You know, everyone talks like if we draft Stafford, he comes in and starts day one. First of all, I think the new coach will have a lot to say about if we do that. Personally, I think the starting spot is Thigpen's to lose. Coming out a year early, Stafford could use a year holding a clipboard before he is just thrown to the wolves. Just because Ryan and Flacco came in and started day one with success does not mean Stafford will. Flacco was never intended to start day one, Injury and illness forced it to happen that way. He did benefit from a great D(which we don't have) to put less pressure on him to put up big numbers.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:30 AM   #47
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They drafted Seymore #6 during thier rebuild instead of trading down.
I believe Stafford will pull an Elway/Eli if Bradford declares too. Due to the disarray with the Lions' franchise . It doesn't hurt he has hardcore connections too with KC. Hence, the signed Stafford Kansas City Chiefs' mini-helmet.This is indicative that KC is his team of choice. Which also tips the hand of the FO that they want him on the 2009 squad .
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:33 AM   #48
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:38 AM   #49
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Stafford has KC connections?
A scout that may or may not be retained is family friends with the Staffords.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:38 AM   #50
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Stafford has KC connections?
One of the scouts is friends of the family plus the Hunt's and Stafford's are from Highland Park.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:39 AM   #51
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UGA’s Stafford, Moreno declare for NFL draft]UGA’s Stafford, Moreno declare for NFL draft
Both players are projected to be drafted in the first round according to analysts

By CHIP TOWERS

The Atlanta Journal-Consitution

Wednesday, January 07, 2009

Athens — Georgia’s Matthew Stafford and Knowshon Moreno announced today their intentions to enter the NFL draft. And with them exits 95.5 percent of the Bulldogs’ offense from this past season.

Stafford, a junior quarterback, and Moreno, a redshirt sophomore tailback, accounted for 5,291 of the Bulldogs 5,538 yards in offense in 2008. They also combined to account for nearly half (44) of the team’s 89 touchdowns with 26 and 18, respectively.

“Very tough decision,” Moreno said. “I went home, talked to family members about the pros and cons of leaving. I came to the decision to leave early to pursue my career in the NFL. It’s a life-long dream. It’s been awesome coming to Athens. It’s like a second home to me.”

“After the (bowl) game I got pretty emotional thinking about what I’m going to do,” Stafford said. “It was a tough decision, but I’m going to go to the NFL. Like Knowshon, it’s also a lifelong dream for me.

“Glad I got to wear the ‘G’ on my helmet, and represent the university as best I could.”

College underclassmen have until January 15 to file paperwork with the NFL declaring themselves eligible for the draft. But with classes scheduled to resume Thursday and recruiting ongoing, the two players opted to move up their decisions and go ahead and make them public.

“I’m proud of these guys,” coach Mark Richt said. “Great representation for their families and family names. They’ve blessed our program. I hope that we’ve blessed them.”

Both players are projected first-rounders, according to numerous NFL draft analysts. Stafford said that, according to information from the NFL’s draft advisory panel, he is likely to be selected in the first round. Moreno said he missed the deadline to send his paperwork to the advisors.

Georgia players were disappointed but understood their teammates’ decisions.

“I still think we’ll have a great team next season with them or without them,” said sophomore offensive tackle Trinton Sturdivant. “I’m proud of them both and wish them all the luck in the world. I wish I had another year to block for them but it’s all good. We’re going to move on.”

Stafford set a school record with 25 passing touchdowns this past season. He threw for 3,459 yards this past season and has 7,731 yards with 51 TDs and 33 interceptions in three seasons. He was named MVP of the Capital One Bowl last week with 250 yards passing and three TDs.

Moreno, a redshirt sophomore, had 1,400 yards rushing and 18 TDs this past season. He has 2,734 yards rushing in two seasons as the Bulldogs’ featured tailback. That total is the fourth-best career total in Georgia history.

Stafford said that he and Moreno didn’t discuss leaving too much before playing in the Capital One bowl game against Michigan State. He said during the press conference that he had decided before the game that he was likely going to go pro, despite saying numerous times throughout December that he hadn’t given much thought to leaving.

Stafford said he leaned heavily on the advice of his numerous NFL contacts. John Stafford, Matthew’s father, said his son consulted the Kansas City Chiefs’ Mike Hagen, a friend of the family, as well as neighbor Troy Aikman and current NFL quarterbacks Peyton Manning and Jay Cutler about his decision. He also talked to Richt and offensive coordinator Mike Bobo at Georgia.

“He’s gotten input about what it’s like, what to expect and everything else from those guys,” John Stafford said. “I’ve done my best to try to get him those kinds of contacts with those kinds of folks that have actually been involved in something to help him figure out what he wants to do. My role really was just to try to do that, to get him as much input as possible number one. And then number two really to help him go through the thought process, make sure he was looking at it both ways and look at the different areas and make sure he wasn’t getting too much weight from one point or the other. But I’ve always stated it’s up to him, it’s what he wants to do.”

Moreno visited with family and friends back in New Jersey and leaned heavily on the advice of his former high school coach, Steve Antonucci.

Stafford’s and Moreno’s defections leave Georgia with a question mark at quarterback and running back for the 2009 season.

Joe Cox, whom Richt said is the No. 1 quarterback on the depth chart, has been mostly a backup the past three seasons, but will likely enter the spring as the player to beat. Richt compared Cox to former quarterback D.J. Shockley, who was a team leader as a sub before becoming the starter as a senior.

“His senior year has taken on a whole new light,” Richt said.

Cox will likely be challenged by incoming freshmen Aaron Murray and Zach Mettenberger, as well as Logan Gray.

Several players will compete to take over Moreno’s spot, including Caleb King and Richard Samuel.

They will benefit from playing behind an offensive line that gained a lot of experience this season.
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Old 01-08-2009, 05:40 AM   #52
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....just reading the news makes one smarter than the staff at wpi....
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Old 01-08-2009, 07:18 AM   #53
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You know, everyone talks like if we draft Stafford, he comes in and starts day one. First of all, I think the new coach will have a lot to say about if we do that. Personally, I think the starting spot is Thigpen's to lose. Coming out a year early, Stafford could use a year holding a clipboard before he is just thrown to the wolves. Just because Ryan and Flacco came in and started day one with success does not mean Stafford will. Flacco was never intended to start day one, Injury and illness forced it to happen that way. He did benefit from a great D(which we don't have) to put less pressure on him to put up big numbers.
If we draft him at #3 and pay him something like $60 million, I guarantee everyone from the top to the bottom of the organization is gonna want him to start from Day 1. He's the most important investment in franchise history at that point, and it's almost guaranteed that he'll be the undisputed starter, taking snaps from behind center in training camp and beyond.

Thigpen is a nice little story and all, but we wouldn't have any serious money invested in the guy, so coaches might use the nifty little catch phrase, "We'll let them compete in camp for the starting spot", but Stafford would have to break his arm to be benched...
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Old 01-08-2009, 07:55 AM   #54
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....just reading the news makes one smarter than the staff at wpi....
Stop it... You're killing me here.

got a little coffee on my notebook after reading that.
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Old 01-08-2009, 09:26 AM   #55
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He's probably just guessing like the guys around here do, I don't think the Lions would just tip their hand right away.
If they tip their hand, what do they have to lose at this point? Unless they really want to trade out of the first spot and make other teams think they might take their top choice, they have no reason to throw smoke signals. Like the Texans did with Mario Williams, the only factor right now is the extremely large amount of time from now till the draft arrives. So seeing as there is still so much time, all the combine and draft workouts, shoot we haven't even seen the senior Bowl, you could be right.
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That would be ****ing EPIC.

All these guys that are fawning over Pioli, then he goes and trades down, passing on a QB.

The proverbial shit would definitely hit the fan...
Die ..... preferably in a fire
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I'm betting that if Pioli is our GM we will probably trade down a few spots to pick up some more picks. We are in the perfect spot if someone wants to trade up and grab a monster LT,.
exactly.
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Stafford has KC connections?
Didn't Nick tell you, or is he saving it for his next blog entry?
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You know, everyone talks like if we draft Stafford, he comes in and starts day one. First of all, I think the new coach will have a lot to say about if we do that. Personally, I think the starting spot is Thigpen's to lose. Coming out a year early, Stafford could use a year holding a clipboard before he is just thrown to the wolves. Just because Ryan and Flacco came in and started day one with success does not mean Stafford will. Flacco was never intended to start day one, Injury and illness forced it to happen that way. He did benefit from a great D(which we don't have) to put less pressure on him to put up big numbers.
Considering Stafford has more under center experience than Thigpen does and the odds of a new coach doing the spread for Thigpen are nill...I'm not so sure that Stafford couldn't frankly beat out Thigpen.
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That would be ****ing EPIC.

All these guys that are fawning over Pioli, then he goes and trades down, passing on a QB.

The proverbial shit would definitely hit the fan...
Yes. I'd be ****ing furious.
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