Chiefs Are there any remaining Potential Chief HOF'ers?? - Page 4

KcKing · 01-31-2009, 09:59 PM

Been thinking about this for awhile... Even checked the all-time rosters for players that could potentially make it as a Senior Nominee. I don't see anyone personally. Maybe Neil Smith in the Senior Group... Is there anyone i'm missing?

chop · 02-01-2009, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Why Tony is a 1st ballot HOF and Sharpe isn't:

Sharpe:
14 seasons
815 receptions
10,060 yards
62 TDs
8 Pro Bowls
3x 1st team All-Pro
0 records

Gonzalez:
12 seasons
916 receptions
10,940 yards
76 TDs
10 Pro Bowls
6x First Team All-Pro
league records:

Receptions in a single season for a tight end (102, 2004 season, led NFL in 2004)
Career receiving yards for a tight end (10,940 as of December 30, 2008)
Career receptions for a tight end (916 as of December 30, 2008)
Career receiving touchdowns for a tight end (76 as of December 30, 2008)
Most seasons with 1,000+ receiving yards by a tight end (4)

But Sharpe has the jewry (I spelled it the way it sounds when Sharpe says it).

chop · 02-01-2009, 12:05 AM

I don't see how a guy that will pretty much have all the records for his position is not a 1st ballot guy.

**cdcox** · 02-01-2009, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Boon

I'd like to see Otis Taylor make it.

I think he'll get a shot from the old timer's committee within the next several years.

Ebolapox · 02-01-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Even setting aside my disdain for the Bronco, Tony G. is in a different class. Tony G. has always been seen as the standard for tight ends, receiving, blocking, and everything else. The Bronco was generally seen as a big wide receiver.

s'funny you should mention mushmouth being a big WR... I went back and was looking at some old football cards, and on his 1991 pacific football card, he's listed at WR. let's see if I can find an image of it online...

...couldn't find it, but this backs up my point...

BigRock · 02-01-2009, 12:10 AM

Let's examine the most important stat of all:

LIVES SAVED

Tony Gonzalez: +2 (that we know of)
Shannon Sharpe: -7 (CBS viewers driven to suicide)

Sam Hall · 02-01-2009, 12:25 AM

It would be an outrage if Gonzalez isn't a first-ballot Hall of Famer. He's done everything he can do to get a Super Bowl win. The team has always had major issues that prevented it from winning a Super Bowl. He has never been part of the problem.

It would also be an outrage if Shields isn't a first-ballot Hall of Famer, but I can see it because guards are easy to ignore. It's still BS.

dj56dt58 · 02-01-2009, 12:25 AM

Tony G is first ballot and theres no doubt in my mind about that, I think Shields and Roaf are also first ballot

blueballs · 02-01-2009, 12:26 AM

Marty and DV both have shots
enough votes is another matter

ChiefsCountry · 02-01-2009, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox

I think he'll get a shot from the old timer's committee within the next several years.

With Bullet Bob Hayes getting in I think Otis has a good shot.

unothadeal · 02-01-2009, 12:59 AM

Brian Waters?

Thig Lyfe · 02-01-2009, 01:08 AM

Rashaan Shehee.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-01-2009, 01:23 AM

Gonzalez is a media friendly guy with no blots on his record. He'll be 1st ballot. Shields will have to wait a year or two.

I still can't believe Carter and Sharpe didn't get in.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-01-2009, 01:27 AM

And there is no way Deron Cherry, Kimble Anders, Brian Waters, Priest, Donnie Edwards, or Tony Richardson should even be mentioned for the HOF. It's not going to happen.

Do you really think Lorenzo Neal is a HOFer? He's a better FB than Tony or Kimble.
Is Edge James a HOFer? He's had a better career than Priest.
There are probably 10-15 active linebackers who've had better careers than Donnie.
And do you think Waters will get a HOF nod when people compare his career to Shields, Faneca, Hutchinson, among others?

**cdcox** · 02-01-2009, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

With Bullet Bob Hayes getting in I think Otis has a good shot.

Yep. Two guys with similar stats. They were both freaks: Hayes with speed; Taylor with size.

I'm thinking that Hayes getting in will help Taylor's chances if/when Taylor comes up.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-01-2009, 01:48 AM

Bob Hayes is far more memorable due to the fact that he played in Dallas and won a gold medal.

It's stupid, but it's true.

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chop Go Chiefs! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $2604270	I don't see how a guy that will pretty much have all the records for his position is not a 1st ballot guy. __________________ Never be satisfied with what you achieve, because it all pales in comparison with what you are capable of doing in the future.
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Sam Hall UNSTOPPABLE Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: KC area Casino cash: $9895185	It would be an outrage if Gonzalez isn't a first-ballot Hall of Famer. He's done everything he can do to get a Super Bowl win. The team has always had major issues that prevented it from winning a Super Bowl. He has never been part of the problem. It would also be an outrage if Shields isn't a first-ballot Hall of Famer, but I can see it because guards are easy to ignore. It's still BS. __________________
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dj56dt58 Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9960055	Tony G is first ballot and theres no doubt in my mind about that, I think Shields and Roaf are also first ballot
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blueballs Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	Marty and DV both have shots enough votes is another matter
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7919572	Gonzalez is a media friendly guy with no blots on his record. He'll be 1st ballot. Shields will have to wait a year or two. I still can't believe Carter and Sharpe didn't get in. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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02-01-2009, 01:27 AM	#58
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7919572	And there is no way Deron Cherry, Kimble Anders, Brian Waters, Priest, Donnie Edwards, or Tony Richardson should even be mentioned for the HOF. It's not going to happen. Do you really think Lorenzo Neal is a HOFer? He's a better FB than Tony or Kimble. Is Edge James a HOFer? He's had a better career than Priest. There are probably 10-15 active linebackers who've had better careers than Donnie. And do you think Waters will get a HOF nod when people compare his career to Shields, Faneca, Hutchinson, among others? __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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02-01-2009, 01:48 AM	#60
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7919572	Bob Hayes is far more memorable due to the fact that he played in Dallas and won a gold medal. It's stupid, but it's true. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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