Chiefs The Trifecta - Pioli, Thomas, Cowher - Page 4

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Early returns in 2009 have proven fruitful for Kansas City Chiefs fans. With the ouster of Carl Peterson in December, the arrival of Scott Pioli in January, and the final note playing out on the great career of Derrick Thomas, there is only one thing left for the Chiefs to do – hire Bill Cowher as the team’s 11th head coach and complete the trifecta.
I’m not big into horse racing. But once about 20 years ago, I placed a bet at a racetrack. As I didn’t know anything about betting money on horses, my friend instructed me to pick three horses to win, place and show. I looked at the field and randomly selected three horses to win, place and show. After picking them without any thought or plan, I placed my $5 wager and proceeded to land the trifecta. The same goes today. The Chiefs landed one-third of the trifecta when Clark Hunt won the race by enticing Scott Pioli to come to Kansas City. Hunt did it by methodically and diligently studying for his initial meeting with Pioli. He had a calculated plan that would convince him to leave New England, despite the fact that few thought he’d do just that. Pioli then began to unravel and evaluate the Chiefs organization. His first task was to decide the fate of Herm Edwards. It became clear as assistant coaches began to land jobs in other NFL cities that Pioli would likely be in the market for a new head coach soon. Indeed that was the case, and as Super Bowl week began, nobody knew for sure what direction Pioli would take in his search for the head coach. But as a distraction, on Saturday, the late Thomas made the final cut and took his place in the Hall of Fame. After several attempts, Bob Gretz successfully convinced the Hall of Fame selection committee that it was time to add Thomas. When the moment had passed, I received a text from the biggest Derrick Thomas fan I’ve ever met. After DT’s selection, I could read in the fan’s words what it meant to him and all the other Chiefs fans that Thomas finally has a permanent Place in the Hall of Fame. With the second part of the trifecta in hand, there is only one horse left that has to cross the finish line – Bill Cowher. If Cowher saw Clark Hunt accept the Hall of Fame selection for Thomas today, it had to bring back memories of their time together in Kansas City. Cowher was Marty Schottenheimer’s defensive coordinator from 1989 to 1991. Those three years defined Thomas, who went on to become one of the NFL’s premier pass rushers of all time. Now Cowher has the opportunity to shock the league by being the darkest of all dark horses - to come out of retirement and become KC’s next head coach despite the fact that few believe it will happen. Cowher talk has cooled recently because of the fact every NFL expert believes Pioli will hire Arizona Cardinals offensive coordinator Todd Haley. He’s certainly become the darling in the search for the next Chiefs’ head coach. Not many people believe Cowher is even in this race. He’s stated he won’t coach until 2010, if then. All signs point away from the Chiefs. But why not dream a little as this race nears its end? Next week the Chiefs will likely announce their new head coach. While Haley is the hot name, there isn’t any question that Cowher is the best candidate to lead the new Chiefs. He has history in Kansas City and from all accounts loved the area. He fits the veteran-coach mold that Pioli is comfortable with and has a tremendous amount of respect for the Hunt family. Will it happen? Most feel it’s not likely, but as this race closes, I want to see Cowher come up from the rear of the pack, position himself behind Pioli and Thomas, and finish the most important race in Chiefs history. I want to see the trifecta completed once again.

**kysirsoze** · 02-01-2009, 03:47 AM

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**Kyle DeLexus** · 02-01-2009, 03:47 AM

Great stuff FAX

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-01-2009, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

TO and Boldin at the prima donna position in the NFL. Yet those guys still put up huge numbers and produced with him as a coach.

I'm sticking with you on this. Some of the comments I see here regarding Haley are just flat-out hyperbole with a nice, large dash of assumption thrown in.

Some people are acting like Haley is the second coming of Gun or Krummy just because the guy exhibits some take no shit passion. Are we playing ****ing badminton here?

I will say this until it is pounded in to every skeptics head:

The reason you will watch Kurt Warner play QB in a Super Bowl after eight shit years and at 37 years of age, and the reason you have seen and WILL see Fitzgerald make big plays in said Super Bowl, is because Todd Haley coached and death-marched their asses to Greatness.

Bank It!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-01-2009, 04:52 AM

And one more thing:

I've never NOT been a fan of the idea of Cowher coaching the Chiefs. I've looked at the majority of the coaches we've had post-Stram, and aside from Marty, I don't see anything I like. And yes, that includes Dicky-Do.
I like Cowher's fire, intelligence, and method. I've actually done a bit of research and reading on the man.
I determine that Haley, though much younger and with much yet to learn, will be a very "Cowher"-type Coach, but coming from the offensive lineage.

And since WPI by proxy has put it's quasi-official stamp on Cowher; I know he WON'T be coming to Kansas City.

So I say let's take the younger version, and start "Rollin' like Bolan".

kstater · 02-01-2009, 05:34 AM

WPI is going to be right. They name all potential head coaches, they're bound not to be wrong.

Danman · 02-01-2009, 08:01 AM

I started pimping Haley while Schwartz, Spags, and Ryan were the popular choices here, but I don't know-I've been having a feeling it could be Cowher all week. I think he's everything in a coach that Pioli would look for. His teams were always big, tough, fast, and smart. There's the connection with Gailey, and the statements that Clark loves the Steelers way-what better way to run his organization like the Steelers than by hiring their former coach. I'd be very excited about the Chiefs future with the Chin.

Plus there's all those other indications you can't ignore. The real estate in Leawood, the car, the massage therapist, the caulking contractor, the astrologists, Yep, looks like all signs point to Cowher commin to KC.

Danman · 02-01-2009, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kstater

WPI is going to be right. They name all potential head coaches, they're bound not to be wrong.

If you say THE DEAL IS DONE about every candidate, you're bound to be right at least once and then be able to claim victory.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-01-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Danman

I started pimping Haley while Schwartz, Spags, and Ryan were the popular choices here, but I don't know-I've been having a feeling it could be Cowher all week. I think he's everything in a coach that Pioli would look for. His teams were always big, tough, fast, and smart. There's the connection with Gailey, and the statements that Clark loves the Steelers way-what better way to run his organization like the Steelers than by hiring their former coach. I'd be very excited about the Chiefs future with the Chin.

Plus there's all those other indications you can't ignore. The real estate in Leawood, the car, the massage therapist, the caulking contractor, the astrologists, Yep, looks like all signs point to Cowher commin to KC.

Since you're new here and may have missed it, the only red flag I've seen regarding Cowher is that he was not sitting in the analyst desk for the wild card and playoff games.

Where was he? What was he doing?

**Rausch** · 02-01-2009, 12:29 PM

I'd nut myself like a loose fire hose if we got Cowher, but it ain't hap'nen...

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-01-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I'd nut myself like a loose fire hose if we got Cowher, but it ain't hap'nen...

Hey, never count any possibility out when it comes to Pioli and his NSA approach to running the house.

Reerun_KC · 02-01-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I'd nut myself like a loose fire hose if we got Cowher, but it ain't hap'nen...

I would repeatly beat my nutsack with meat cleaver if Cowher is hired....

keg in kc · 02-01-2009, 01:04 PM

Two out of three ain't bad?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-01-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Two out of three ain't bad?

chiefzilla1501 · 02-01-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

I'm sticking with you on this. Some of the comments I see here regarding Haley are just flat-out hyperbole with a nice, large dash of assumption thrown in.

Some people are acting like Haley is the second coming of Gun or Krummy just because the guy exhibits some take no shit passion. Are we playing ****ing badminton here?

I will say this until it is pounded in to every skeptics head:

The reason you will watch Kurt Warner play QB in a Super Bowl after eight shit years and at 37 years of age, and the reason you have seen and WILL see Fitzgerald make big plays in said Super Bowl, is because Todd Haley coached and death-marched their asses to Greatness.

Bank It!

Yes, but he also has a really good head coach above him that learned a lot about how to handle players through Bill Cowher. I'm surprised nobody has given him credit for Warner and Fitzgerald, given that he is an offensive guy himself. Why do people think that just because he got in Boldin and Warner's face that he is the only guy managing these players?

I don't worry about Haley being Gun or Krumrie. I worry about him being Gruden. Gruden inherited a loaded team, took them to the Super Bowl, and has ever since been on a decline and it's largely because he has lost his team because they think he's a jerk.

Again, not saying Haley isn't the answer, but just saying he's not a flawless candidate.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-01-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Yes, but he also has a really good head coach above him that learned a lot about how to handle players through Bill Cowher. I'm surprised nobody has given him credit for Warner and Fitzgerald, given that he is an offensive guy himself. Why do people think that just because he got in Boldin and Warner's face that he is the only guy managing these players?

I don't worry about Haley being Gun or Krumrie. I worry about him being Gruden. Gruden inherited a loaded team, took them to the Super Bowl, and has ever since been on a decline and it's largely because he has lost his team because they think he's a jerk.

Again, not saying Haley isn't the answer, but just saying he's not a flawless candidate.

He's not the only guy, but the stories I've heard regarding him and Fitz clearly point to Haley as being the main man behind his improvement.

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