KU USA Today Poll March 2nd - Page 4

ArrowheadHawk · 03-02-2009, 11:57 AM

March 2, 2009

Rank School Record Points Previous
1. Connecticut (27) 27-2 769 2
2. North Carolina 25-3 711 5
3. Memphis (4) 26-3 698 4
4. Pittsburgh 26-3 667 1
5. Oklahoma 26-3 653 3
6. Louisville 23-5 630 6
7. Duke 24-5 597 7
8. Michigan State 23-5 557 9
9. Kansas 24-5 509 15
10. Wake Forest 22-5 480 14
11. LSU 25-4 420 18
12. Missouri 24-5 377 8
13. Washington 22-7 346 21
14. Gonzaga 23-5 339 17
15. Marquette 23-6 327 10
16. Villanova 23-6 324 12
17. UCLA 22-7 295 19
18. Xavier 23-5 260 22
19. Clemson 22-6 219 13
20. Purdue 22-7 211 16
21. Arizona State 21-7 189 11
22. Butler 25-4 168 23
23. Illinois 23-7 107 20
24. Florida State 22-7 67 25
25. Syracuse 21-8 37 NR

**Lzen** · 03-02-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

Zach, I'm talking to pete and his 14 point "spot" theory. That silly nincompoop is trying to have it both ways, so I'm just trying to show him the absurdity of his argument.

Give it up, dude. Pete's a blockhead. He will never be rational.

**petegz28** · 03-02-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

Zach, I'm talking to pete and his 14 point "spot" theory. That silly nincompoop is trying to have it both ways, so I'm just trying to show him the absurdity of his argument.

Have what both ways? What am I trying to have both ways? You are the one making excuses as to why you lost at MU. You were spotted 14 points and lost. That is the fact. You can't change it, no matter how much you may want too.

**petegz28** · 03-02-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

Give it up, dude. Pete's a blockhead. He will never be rational.

And you're half a bundle of sticks.

**luv** · 03-02-2009, 02:06 PM

If MU and KU play against each other in the Big XII tourney, on neutral ground, and both teams play their best games, I think it would be close. I'm pretty sure you all will question my MU fandom when I say that KU would probably come out on top.

|Zach| · 03-02-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

If MU and KU play against each other in the Big XII tourney, on neutral ground, and both teams play their best games, I think it would be close. I'm pretty sure you all will question my MU fandom when I say that KU would probably come out on top.

Just once it would be really interesting to see an opinion of yours that didn't seem completely manufactured before hand based on how other people will think or react to it.

Have an opinion and just own it regardless of others. I have never seen someone work so hard to tip toe based on input from other people.

Pants · 03-02-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

The fact you say KU let up and allowed MU to come back. That is an excuse. I know, in your mind it isn't somehow but that is the fact.

WTF are you talking about? It's a mental lapse on KU's part and it's no excuse, it's happened before versus many other teams this year. It just means that KU sucks in terms of mental toughness and you see what happened on Sunday when they didn't fall prey to it. KU had the game in Missouri and they blew it, that's a fact.

**luv** · 03-02-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Just once it would be really interesting to see an opinion of yours that didn't seem completely manufactured before hand based on how other people will think or react to it.

Have an opinion and just own it regardless of others. I have never seen someone work so hard to tip toe based on input from other people.

I believe I did state my opinion. I think KU is the better team right now. However, I don't think MU is as bad as KU fans make them out to be. I think it would be closer than they think it would.

beer bacon · 03-02-2009, 02:15 PM

If MU wants to play at KU's level they need to figure out how to play consistent offense. It is as simple as that. They can't score in the first halves of games, and it has killed them in most of their losses.

POND_OF_RED · 03-02-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

Good Lord, you are, in fact, reeruned. KU's SOS (that's strength of schedule) is #14 according to the RPI. MU's is #54.

Those will even out tremendously after this week. KU plays #135 and #38 this week while MU will play #5 and #35. Also you played OU while they were #3 I believe but that team was not really a #3.

**petegz28** · 03-02-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

WTF are you talking about? It's a mental lapse on KU's part and it's no excuse, it's happened before versus many other teams this year. It just means that KU sucks in terms of mental toughness and you see what happened on Sunday when they didn't fall prey to it. KU had the game in Missouri and they blew it, that's a fact.

Sure it was......mental lapse.....whatever you need to tell yourself. Couldn't of been anything MU did....had to be KU's own doing....

**petegz28** · 03-02-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

I believe I did state my opinion. I think KU is the better team right now. However, I don't think MU is as bad as KU fans make them out to be. I think it would be closer than they think it would.

Agree 100%. I don't think anyone is sayin KU is not the better team at the moment. But they are not as good as they are acting like they are and MU is not as bad as they are acting like they are.

sedated · 03-02-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Funny, you guys split the series with MU

the average margin of victory this year was KU by 13.5.

I made no excuses for the loss at MU. I don't, however, IMHO, think that it means the teams are completely even, just because it says 1-1 in head-to-head.

MU's home court advantage led to a 2-point win for MU, at the buzzer.
KU's home court advantage led to a 25-point win for KU, that was never, for one second, in doubt.

Now, what can we guess will happen on a neutral court?

Pants · 03-02-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Sure it was......mental lapse.....whatever you need to tell yourself. Couldn't of been anything MU did....had to be KU's own doing....

Why would I need to tell myself anything? KU is a better team. Has been and will be. I'm just trying to point some things out to you. You obviously have no idea what I'm talking about, but those mental lapses have been plaguing this KU team all year.

You can believe whatever you want, but know that you will sound stupid to those who are informed. We'll let history be the judge, yeah?

sedated · 03-02-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Sure it was......mental lapse.....whatever you need to tell yourself. Couldn't of been anything MU did....had to be KU's own doing....

I don't dicount the effect MU's defense had on KU's turnovers. Mu has a great D, one of the best in the country.

On that same note, I realize the effect KU's defense had on MU's shooting percentage.

But, KU has had long stretches of horrible offense this year, has proven they can get a case of the turnovers, and has let teams that were out of the game at halftime back in at the end. And all of these flaws were proven long before they played MU.

Just like if MU had shot a horrible FG percentage all year before playing KU. I wouldn't walk in and say "look at what KU did to you fools, hahaha!"

I'm saying its both. KU turns the ball over on offense, MU forces turnovers, hence the high number of turnovers.

|Zach| · 03-02-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

I believe I did state my opinion. I think KU is the better team right now. However, I don't think MU is as bad as KU fans make them out to be. I think it would be closer than they think it would.

Reread my post. I didn't say you didn't state an opinion.

03-02-2009, 11:57 AM
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03-02-2009, 02:06 PM	#49
luv MY LITTLE #15 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Springfield, MO Casino cash: $5939600	If MU and KU play against each other in the Big XII tourney, on neutral ground, and both teams play their best games, I think it would be close. I'm pretty sure you all will question my MU fandom when I say that KU would probably come out on top.
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03-02-2009, 02:15 PM	#53
beer bacon WHAT Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $10019545	If MU wants to play at KU's level they need to figure out how to play consistent offense. It is as simple as that. They can't score in the first halves of games, and it has killed them in most of their losses.
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