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Old 04-12-2009, 07:20 AM  
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Whitlock comes down on LJ hard, supports Waters
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Chiefs need to get this right: Boot LJ, keep Waters


There’s no reason to believe Larry Johnson or his new agent.

The moody running back, in the pursuit of the remaining millions left on his contract, claims — through his agent — he wants nothing more than to be a productive runner for the Kansas City Chiefs in 2009.

He made the same claims before the start of the 2007 season, when he was trying to secure a lucrative contract extension. Carl Peterson fell for Johnson’s kind words and made Johnson the highest-paid Chief.

Scott Pioli should go ahead and release Johnson now. If somehow Kansas City’s new general manager is able to trade Johnson for anything — chinstrap, mouthpiece, blocking dummy, a jockstrap to be named later — Pioli would have to be an early candidate for NFL executive of the year.

Johnson has no trade value. He refuses to block. He’s an unreliable runner. He has a bad attitude. His best years are long gone. A team would be foolish to trade for Johnson.

Why not just wait for the Chiefs to release Johnson?

If the Chiefs hold on to Johnson and he makes their season-opening roster, which would re-guarantee his contract, then we’ll have our second legitimate reason to question the decision-making of the Chiefs’ new leadership.

For those of you with short memories, our first legitimate reason was Pioli and Todd Haley’s handling of their first meeting with Pro Bowl guard Brian Waters.

This is one of the most underplayed stories of the NFL offseason. Waters is Kansas City’s version of Jay Cutler. After brief and abrasive encounters with Pioli and Haley, Waters demanded his release from the Chiefs.

Obviously, Waters isn’t as high-profile as a Pro Bowl quarterback, so the national media have ignored his dissatisfaction.

But Waters’ troubles hint at a bigger trend: The arrogance of the young lieutenants coming off the Bill Belichick tree and whether they’ve made mistakes that damaged their new franchises.

Denver coach Josh McDaniels, the 32-year-old former Patriots offensive coordinator, cost the Broncos an in-his-prime franchise quarterback by foolishly attempting to trade for Matt Cassel.

Pioli, Belichick’s former right hand, may cost Kansas City its best lineman by foolishly implementing his my-way-or-the-highway approach to diplomacy. Pioli and Haley needlessly played rough with a valuable asset.

Of course, the whole thing could blow over during the offseason and Waters could return to his role as locker-room leader by training camp. But right now, we don’t know where the standoff stands. Waters represents himself and isn’t talking. Pioli and Haley don’t like to talk about sensitive issues.

We’re left to speculate.

Maybe the Chiefs could package Waters and Johnson in a draft-day trade, if there’s a player on the board in the second or third round that the club really likes.

It’s difficult for me to envision a scenario that would have Johnson on the Chiefs’ 2009 roster. It’s equally difficult for me to see Pioli taking the necessary, pride-swallowing steps to fix the team’s issue with Waters.

Brian Waters can be reasoned with. He’s a student of the game.

Don’t read anything into what I’m about to say. I have not talked with Brian Waters or anyone close to him recently. I’m basing my opinion on what I’ve learned about Brian over his nine years on the Chiefs.

He can be easily persuaded to get on board with what Pioli and Haley are trying to accomplish. Waters simply needs to be recruited and given the level of respect his consistent play and off-field professionalism demand.

Does Mike Vrabel’s success in New England dictate he gets more respect in Kansas City than Brian Waters? Not in my opinion.

According to Cassel’s statement to the media shortly after being traded to KC, Pioli had an open-door policy with players in New England. You got the impression Pioli liked to chat up key personnel and get them on board with the club’s philosophy.

His handling of Waters created the impression of a young person on an immature power trip. General managers don’t win football games. Good football players and coaches do. You do whatever is necessary to retain the good ones, and you dump the Larry Johnsons of the world the first chance you get.
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Old 04-12-2009, 02:20 PM   #46
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Whitlock takes up for his good buddy Waters, man I'm stunned.

They can both go in my opinion.
Why do you want to create so many holes on this goddamn team?

We have enough on defense as it is. Be nice to build a defense and then find replacements for LJ and Waters in the draft in a couple years. That's do-able.
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Why do you want to create so many holes on this goddamn team?

We have enough on defense as it is. Be nice to build a defense and then find replacements for LJ and Waters in the draft in a couple years. That's do-able.
Just for the record this draft is deep at OL and you can get a RB any year in the draft...

This is a pretty weak defensive draft so I don't think it'd be a great idea to take a bunch of defenders this year.

Hell the best positions in the draft are OL and WR.
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It's still wasting picks on holes that are already filled.
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Just for the record this draft is deep at OL and you can get a RB any year in the draft...

This is a pretty weak defensive draft so I don't think it'd be a great idea to take a bunch of defenders this year.

Hell the best positions in the draft are OL and WR.
So you anticipate Taylor or Crabtree at 3 if no trade down?
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It's still wasting picks on holes that are already filled.
They're not filled for long even if you keep those players they're both in their mid 30's and neither one has a great attitude. Oh not to mention Waters isn't even really all that good anymore.
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They're not filled for long even if you keep those players they're both in their mid 30's and neither one has a great attitude. Oh not to mention Waters isn't even really all that good anymore.
Maybe you have a point. If we can find a guard in the 3rd and a RB in the 4th there's not much point in keeping LJ and Waters around.
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You can find a RB in the mid to late rounds every single year, finding another RB shouldn't even be a reason not to get rid of a guy.
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You can find a RB in the mid to late rounds every single year, finding another RB shouldn't even be a reason not to get rid of a guy.
Like Kolby Smith? That worked out well.
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Like Kolby Smith? That worked out well.
Lets not use him as an example, he's not a good one.

I'm a pretty big fan of James Davis in this years draft.
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Lets not use him as an example, he's not a good one.

I'm a pretty big fan of James Davis in this years draft.
Don't we already have a guy like that in Charles?

EDIT - Nevermind he's 218

I am intrigued. Priestlike?
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Don't we already have a guy like that in Charles?
Uh no, you're thinking of the guy he teamed with CJ Spiller he's the speed, Davis was the power.
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Honestly, I looked at this guy and did not think power back. I'm probably spoiled by LJ. But seriously, he looks like a WR.

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