Football ToddHaley to get punched by one of his players? - Page 4

vailpass · 04-24-2009, 05:00 PM

Here is an article from today's local Phoenix paper about Haley with KC. The writer is one of the better sports guys here in town...

Bickley: Haley could shake up NFL
Dan Bickley - Apr. 23, 2009 06:47 PM
The Arizona Republic
Profile: Todd Haley

There's an ongoing wager inside the Cardinals training facility. One side of the money says Todd Haley will get slugged by a Chiefs player before the start of the regular season.

So far, there have been no punches and no payoff. But it's early.
"There are times, and I hate to admit it, when I get out of control a little bit," said Haley, new head coach of the Chiefs. "And as a head coach, you have to keep control. That's something I'll have to work on."

There are many great stories in the NFL 2009. The Cardinals are reigning NFC champions. The Bears finally have a franchise quarterback. And in Kansas City, the wonderfully volatile Haley brings his combative intensity to a team that was 2-14 one season ago.

Is the former Cardinals offensive coordinator ready to be a head coach? Are the Chiefs ready for him?

Haley just turned 42. He never played the game. But he's the son of a football legend, a protege of Bill Parcells and a man unafraid to challenge his players. In Arizona, his constant badgering made Kurt Warner better, and it turned Larry Fitzgerald into the best receiver in football.

"I coach guys hard," he said.

It's football as it should be. But can a brusque, demanding throwback such as Haley succeed as a head coach in the 21st century, in an era when Tom Coughlin had to soften up to save his job?

It's a good question, and one of many that have Haley scratching his head.

"The people I go to for advice and the people that mean a lot to me all say the same thing: 'Be yourself,' " Haley said. "We'll give it a try, and if I have to dial it back a little, I will."

Haley just concluded his first minicamp in Kansas City, and of the 67 players on the roster, 64 showed up. Haley stressed to his players that practice was a big deal, and it had to be done his way, at high speeds. He also made everyone wear red helmets without the famous arrowhead logo. It was a reminder that they were all starting from scratch.

It hasn't been an easy transition. When he first got the job, he met offensive lineman Brian Waters in the hallway, and told the veteran player that he could get 22 players off the street and win two games. Waters was so offended by the "arrogance" of his new coach that he promptly demanded a trade. Meanwhile, the Chiefs finally traded disgruntled tight end Tony Gonzalez on Thursday, and surely, there will be more bruised feelings along the way.

It's also been difficult flushing the Super Bowl loss. Haley and three assistant coaches he imported from Arizona (Clancy Pendergast, Maurice Carthon, Dedric Ward) recently were fitted for their NFC Championship rings, and it reminded them of the pit in their stomach.

Then during one of the team's practices, a Chiefs quarterback threw an interception near the goal line. Only a few of the offensive players hustled to tackle the interceptor. It struck a chord with Haley, who still visualizes James Harrison rumbling down the sidelines for a touchdown after intercepting Warner in the Super Bowl.

He put the play on tape and showed it to his team.

"That one was near and dear," Haley said. "We may not do a lot of things well, but we're going to chase and tackle on interceptions, that's for sure."

Haley is smart, well-trained and highly competitive. He became a household name during the NFC Championship Game. He was verbally assaulted by Anquan Boldin on the sidelines during the game-winning drive, yet never lost his focus. Then in the postgame glow, Fitzgerald thanked him publicly for the tough love, crediting Haley for his mind-boggling improvement.

That put him over the top, effectively landing him in Kansas City, where he might be the next big thing. Or he might rub the wrong guy the wrong way.

"Obviously, I can't say this is a dream come true for me because I never dreamed I'd be a head coach in the NFL," Haley said. "It's unbelievable to me that I have a chance to impact this league."

Here's hoping he shakes things up really well.

www.arizonarepublic.com

htismaqe · 05-01-2009, 11:26 AM

Short version:

Chiefs fans are stupid homers.

Just Passin' By · 05-01-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

Again, if he were coaching the raiders most of the Haley supporters would be laughing at this type of remarks from his former team and waiting for his certain implosion. But since he's our coach he's not a douchebag he's just a "hard-nosed' guy like Bill Parcells.

The same thing happened with Herm. Everybody here knew he was a shitty coach that had no offense and couldn't manage the clock. If he would've gone to the raiders yall woulda been making fun of him from day 1. Instead, a good percentage of people decided to defend him for several years as some type of defensive genius, players coach, and a major upgrade.

If Matt Cassell went anywhere else most people here would have no time comparing him to Scott Mitchell, but since he's here he can't be anything but a saviour.

What the hell are you talking about? Do you realize that a poster here has "...Scott Mitchell v2.0" in his sig? Do you realize that people here were bitching about Haley being hired, and even more about Pendergast being named DC?

I'm still relatively new here and I don't know everyone yet, so I have to ask this question. Are you a troll or just completely ignorant?

B_Ambuehl · 05-01-2009, 11:34 AM

1 out of 100 does not make a majority. Try starting a thread saying something negative about any of the chosen ones (Pioli, Haley, Cassell) and you'll see what I mean.

VERY few people around here have any sorta objectivity.

Just Passin' By · 05-01-2009, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

1 out of 100 does not make a majority. Try starting a thread saying something negative about any of the chosen ones (Pioli, Haley, Cassell) and you'll see what I mean.

VERY few people around here have any sorta objectivity.

You clearly don't have any. Furthermore, on any team message board, starting a thread attacking new players/personnel will lead to a response. Some will attack and some will defend.

Have you ever been on a message board before?

CoMoChief · 05-01-2009, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

1 out of 100 does not make a majority. Try starting a thread saying something negative about any of the chosen ones (Pioli, Haley, Cassell) and you'll see what I mean.

VERY few people around here have any sorta objectivity.

This is true. Whether dumbasses on here wanna believe it or not.

htismaqe · 05-01-2009, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

1 out of 100 does not make a majority. Try starting a thread saying something negative about any of the chosen ones (Pioli, Haley, Cassell) and you'll see what I mean.

VERY few people around here have any sorta objectivity.

Shows how much you've paid attention.

Start a thread about Cassel and say something POSITIVE.

You'll INSTANTLY get pounced on by a dozen or more people that think he'll never be a franchise QB and hate the fact that we traded for him.

MOhillbilly · 05-01-2009, 11:43 AM

im worried about haleys temper. as a HC in my mind you run the risk of boiling over if things go bad then your mind **** turns in on you.
you can get away with abit more as OC/DC maybe as you always have the next play to script.

CoMoChief · 05-01-2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Shows how much you've paid attention.

Start a thread about Cassel and say something POSITIVE.

You'll INSTANTLY get pounced on by a dozen or more people that think he'll never be a franchise QB and hate the fact that we traded for him.

No, you will people like Mecca and Hamas that will force feed the Sanchez bandwagon down your throat.

htismaqe · 05-01-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

No, you will people like Mecca and Hamas that will force feed the Sanchez bandwagon down your throat.

The reason they're on the Sanchez bandwagon is because they don't think Cassel can do it and they weren't on-board with the trade.

Once again, B_Ambuehl started a post with the sole intention of slamming everybody here as being intellectually inferior and it backfired.

**Buzz** · 05-01-2009, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass

There's an ongoing wager inside the Cardinals training facility. One side of the money says Todd Haley will get slugged by a Chiefs player before the start of the regular season.

So I'm betting Haley gets knocked the **** out after we lose in preseason to the Houston Texans. We play them on Saturday 8/15 and I'm going to go with the first practice right after that on Monday 8/17.

Brock · 05-01-2009, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

If Matt Cassell went anywhere else most people here would have no time comparing him to Scott Mitchell, but since he's here he can't be anything but a saviour.

And you're saying that's different from any other team board?

**DeezNutz** · 05-01-2009, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Chiefs fans are stupid homers.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-01-2009, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Shows how much you've paid attention.

Start a thread about Cassel and say something POSITIVE.

You'll INSTANTLY get pounced on by a dozen or more people that think he'll never be a franchise QB and hate the fact that we traded for him.

Or, start a negative thread about said QB, and I can guaran-****in' tee you that Douchey will be along in the wink of an eye to defend his lovers' maidenhead.

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The reason they're on the Sanchez bandwagon is because they don't think Cassel can do it and they weren't on-board with the trade.

Once again, B_Ambuehl started a post with the sole intention of slamming everybody here as being intellectually inferior and it backfired.

CoMo finds a like-minded soul; how shocking!

htismaqe · 05-01-2009, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

Or, start a negative thread about said QB, and I can guaran-****in' tee you that Douchey will be along in the wink of an eye to defend his lovers' maidenhead.

The point is that this board is HEAVILY polarized. About 33% hate the thought of Cassel at QB and he can do no right. Another 33% love the idea and he can do no wrong. And then there's the 33% that are either less vehement about their views or they just don't care.

The same could be said about Scott "three strikes" Pioli or Todd Haley.

It doesn't change the fact that, once again, B_Ambuehl said that we're ALL idiots, regardless of our stances, because he's the only one that knows how to be objective.

htismaqe · 05-01-2009, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock

And you're saying that's different from any other team board?

It's different because he's HERE, bestowing upon us his shining light of objectivity.

04-24-2009, 05:00 PM
vailpass Psycho Bag Of Squanch Join Date: Sep 2001 Casino cash: $9594244	ToddHaley to get punched by one of his players? Here is an article from today's local Phoenix paper about Haley with KC. The writer is one of the better sports guys here in town... Bickley: Haley could shake up NFL Dan Bickley - Apr. 23, 2009 06:47 PM The Arizona Republic Profile: Todd Haley There's an ongoing wager inside the Cardinals training facility. One side of the money says Todd Haley will get slugged by a Chiefs player before the start of the regular season. So far, there have been no punches and no payoff. But it's early. "There are times, and I hate to admit it, when I get out of control a little bit," said Haley, new head coach of the Chiefs. "And as a head coach, you have to keep control. That's something I'll have to work on." There are many great stories in the NFL 2009. The Cardinals are reigning NFC champions. The Bears finally have a franchise quarterback. And in Kansas City, the wonderfully volatile Haley brings his combative intensity to a team that was 2-14 one season ago. Is the former Cardinals offensive coordinator ready to be a head coach? Are the Chiefs ready for him? Haley just turned 42. He never played the game. But he's the son of a football legend, a protege of Bill Parcells and a man unafraid to challenge his players. In Arizona, his constant badgering made Kurt Warner better, and it turned Larry Fitzgerald into the best receiver in football. "I coach guys hard," he said. It's football as it should be. But can a brusque, demanding throwback such as Haley succeed as a head coach in the 21st century, in an era when Tom Coughlin had to soften up to save his job? It's a good question, and one of many that have Haley scratching his head. "The people I go to for advice and the people that mean a lot to me all say the same thing: 'Be yourself,' " Haley said. "We'll give it a try, and if I have to dial it back a little, I will." Haley just concluded his first minicamp in Kansas City, and of the 67 players on the roster, 64 showed up. Haley stressed to his players that practice was a big deal, and it had to be done his way, at high speeds. He also made everyone wear red helmets without the famous arrowhead logo. It was a reminder that they were all starting from scratch. It hasn't been an easy transition. When he first got the job, he met offensive lineman Brian Waters in the hallway, and told the veteran player that he could get 22 players off the street and win two games. Waters was so offended by the "arrogance" of his new coach that he promptly demanded a trade. Meanwhile, the Chiefs finally traded disgruntled tight end Tony Gonzalez on Thursday, and surely, there will be more bruised feelings along the way. It's also been difficult flushing the Super Bowl loss. Haley and three assistant coaches he imported from Arizona (Clancy Pendergast, Maurice Carthon, Dedric Ward) recently were fitted for their NFC Championship rings, and it reminded them of the pit in their stomach. Then during one of the team's practices, a Chiefs quarterback threw an interception near the goal line. Only a few of the offensive players hustled to tackle the interceptor. It struck a chord with Haley, who still visualizes James Harrison rumbling down the sidelines for a touchdown after intercepting Warner in the Super Bowl. He put the play on tape and showed it to his team. "That one was near and dear," Haley said. "We may not do a lot of things well, but we're going to chase and tackle on interceptions, that's for sure." Haley is smart, well-trained and highly competitive. He became a household name during the NFC Championship Game. He was verbally assaulted by Anquan Boldin on the sidelines during the game-winning drive, yet never lost his focus. Then in the postgame glow, Fitzgerald thanked him publicly for the tough love, crediting Haley for his mind-boggling improvement. That put him over the top, effectively landing him in Kansas City, where he might be the next big thing. Or he might rub the wrong guy the wrong way. "Obviously, I can't say this is a dream come true for me because I never dreamed I'd be a head coach in the NFL," Haley said. "It's unbelievable to me that I have a chance to impact this league." Here's hoping he shakes things up really well. www.arizonarepublic.com
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B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9805405	1 out of 100 does not make a majority. Try starting a thread saying something negative about any of the chosen ones (Pioli, Haley, Cassell) and you'll see what I mean. VERY few people around here have any sorta objectivity.
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MOhillbilly Mama Tried Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9949903	im worried about haleys temper. as a HC in my mind you run the risk of boiling over if things go bad then your mind **** turns in on you. you can get away with abit more as OC/DC maybe as you always have the next play to script. __________________ True Son of Liberty
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