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Msmith · 05-05-2010, 05:26 PM

NAIROBI (Reuters) – Somali pirates hijacked a Russian tanker carrying $52 million worth of crude oil and 23 crew on Wednesday, prompting Russia to send a warship to try to deal with the incident, officials said.

Pirates who hijacked the China-bound, Russian-owned MV Moscow University tanker 350 miles off the coast of Yemen warned against any rescue attempt, saying this would endanger the Russian crew.

"A Russian warship is moving toward the tanker," Russian defense ministry spokesman Alexei Kuznetsov said. The Chief of the Russian General Staff cut short a visit to NATO headquarters in Brussels to coordinate the military's response, he added.

The vessel had been traveling under a Liberian flag from Sudan to the Chinese port of Nigbo with 86,000 tonnes of oil owned by Chinese refiner Unipec, a Russian shipping source said. Maritime experts said the tanker had a deadweight of 106,474 tonnes.

"The crew members locked themselves in the radar room. This ship has been hijacked," Commander Rear Admiral Jan Thornqvist of the European Union's Navfor naval force told reporters in the Kenyan port of Mombasa.

Somali sea bandits continue to outwit an international fleet of warships in the busy shipping lane linking Europe with Asia, raking in tens of millions of dollars in ransoms.

One pirate who identified himself as Abdi said the tanker was heading to a pirate haven on the coast of central Somalia.

"Any attempt to rescue the ship will certainly endanger the crew. The ship will be docked at Garacad," Abdi told Reuters by telephone, adding it was too early to talk about a ransom.

NO ATTACK PLANNED

Russia's permanent representative to NATO, Dmitry Rogozin, said the warship would not attack the tanker as the safety of the crew was the top priority, Interfax news agency reported.

The ship will reach the tanker at around 2100 GMT, he said.

Some oil tankers are sailing around southern Africa and further east into the Indian Ocean away from Somalia's coastline to avoid the Gulf of Aden and pirates who are striking deeper out at sea, shipping experts say.

But many are running the gauntlet through the busy Gulf of Aden shipping lane, where warships operate convoys and have set up transit corridors. The tanker had not registered with the Maritime Security Center Horn of Africa, EU NAVFOR said.

The use of mother ships has enabled Somali pirates to strike as far as the Mozambique Channel and off India's coast in recent months, launching smaller boats known as skiffs against ships.

About 7 percent of world oil consumption passes through the Gulf of Aden.

Last weekend, Somali insurgent group Hizbul Islam seized the pirate haven of Haradheere and pledged to take control of more towns in the region, the rebel group said.

So, would the Russians flex the muscle or meow like a pussycat?

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Sofa King · 05-06-2010, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

They're starting to catch on... the first "fight back" by hired guns happened in march:

(AP) Private security guards shot and killed a Somali pirate during an attack on a merchant ship off the coast of East Africa in what is believed to be the first such killing by armed contractors, the EU Naval Force spokesman said Wednesday.

The death comes amid fears that increasingly aggressive pirates and the growing use of armed private security contractors on board vessels could fuel increased violence on the high seas.

Crews are becoming increasingly adept at repelling attacks by pirates in the dangerous waters of the Indian Ocean and Gulf of Aden. But pirates are becoming more aggressive in response, shooting bullets and rocket-propelled grenades at ships to try to intimidate captains into stopping.

Several organizations, including the International Maritime Bureau, have expressed fears that the use of armed security contractors could encourage pirates to be more violent when taking a ship. Sailors have been hurt or killed before but this generally happens by accident or through poor health. There has only been one known execution of a hostage despite dozens of pirate hijackings.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n6328247.shtml

Moral of their story... don't carry guns to defend yourself or you might get hurt. you should just give up the ship and put yourself willingly into the hands of PIRATES...

How they dont just sink those little puddle jumper boats is beyond me...

start sinking/killing them, and they will stop coming...

Pants · 05-06-2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King

Moral of their story... don't carry guns to defend yourself or you might get hurt. you should just give up the ship and put yourself willingly into the hands of PIRATES...

How they dont just sink those little puddle jumper boats is beyond me...

start sinking/killing them, and they will stop coming...

International laws do not allow big guns on decks of freighters, the biggest you can go is a shotgun (for bird control). So countries would have to change their port laws in order for your suggestion to even be considered. The pirates carry RPGs, BTW.

**pr_capone** · 05-06-2010, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

International laws do not allow big guns on decks of freighters, the biggest you can go is a shotgun (for bird control). So countries would have to change their port laws in order for your suggestion to even be considered. The pirates carry RPGs, BTW.

maritime laws still allow for harpoons... just saying

DJ's left nut · 05-06-2010, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King

Moral of their story... don't carry guns to defend yourself or you might get hurt. you should just give up the ship and put yourself willingly into the hands of PIRATES...

How they dont just sink those little puddle jumper boats is beyond me...

start sinking/killing them, and they will stop coming...

Probably not. Again - it's Somalia, most of these guys are going to be dead within 5 years anyway. If they're lucky, they end up in a Western prison. If they're not, they die of a gunshot wound a few months before dysentary would have done it.

I was kinda hoping they'd do something to piss the Russians off. Those crazy bastards would've gone into the villages housing them, dismembered their family members and mailed them the pieces back one at a time. Then after all the pieces got there, they'd have burned the village to the ground on general principle.

Ultimately I'm not so sure there's much that can be done to dissuade them from attacking. If you're a pleasure boat, don't go anywhere near it. If you're a commercial vessel, best be ready to defend yourself.

The Poz · 05-06-2010, 01:35 PM

Considering you're carrying $52 mil in product. Protect that shit!

Sofa King · 05-06-2010, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

International laws do not allow big guns on decks of freighters, the biggest you can go is a shotgun (for bird control). So countries would have to change their port laws in order for your suggestion to even be considered. The pirates carry RPGs, BTW.

it's Russia.... the last thing they're seriously concerned about is laws... If they sank a ship, noone would miss that ship as long as the russians kept their mouths shut..

Hog's Gone Fishin · 05-06-2010, 01:55 PM

Russian Special Forces Storm Oil Tanker From Helicopter, Free Crew and Arrest Somali Pirates

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ABOARD THE SWEDISH WARSHIP CARLSKRONA

Russian special forces rappelled onto a disabled oil tanker taken over by Somali pirates and freed 23 Russian sailors early Thursday, the commander o...

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ABOARD THE SWEDISH WARSHIP CARLSKRONA — Russian special forces rappelled onto a disabled oil tanker taken over by Somali pirates and freed 23 Russian sailors early Thursday, the commander of the EU Naval Force said. Ten pirates were arrested and one was killed.

The raid on the Liberian-flagged ship Moscow University came 24 hours after pirates had taken the ship over and the crew locked itself in a safe room. The vessel is carrying 86,000 tons of crude oil worth about $50 million.

The special forces had been aboard the Russian anti-submarine destroyer Marshal Shaposhnikov, which rushed to the scene after Wednesday's seajacking. A helicopter was dispatched to investigate and was fired on by the pirates, EU Naval Force said. The Russian warship returned fire on the pirates, it said.

Special forces troops on the helicopter rappelled down to the Moscow University, Rear Adm. Jan Thornqvist, force commander of the EU Naval Force, told an Associated Press reporter aboard the warship Carlskrona, which on Thursday was 500 miles (800 kilometers) west of Thursday's rescue and was sailing toward Somali waters.

Ten pirates were detained and one pirate was killed, the Russian state news agency ITAR-Tass cited Vladimir Markin as saying. Markin is the spokesman for Russia's Investigative Committee. There are wounded pirates, he said without giving details.

Russian officials were preparing for the pirates to be delivered to Moscow to face criminal charges, Markin said.

The crew of the Moscow University had previously told officials they believed the pirates were trying to enter the engine room, Thornqvist said. The ship had been disabled and was not moving. Safe rooms, where crews seek shelter, are typically stocked with food, water and communications equipment and have reinforced doors that can only be opened from the inside.

The ship's owner, Novoship, said the decision to free the ship was made knowing "that the crew was under safe cover inaccessible to the pirates and that the lives and health of the sailors was not threatened by anything."

Cmdr. John Harbour, a spokesman for the EU Naval Force, called the rescue "an excellent operation all around." He said the EU Naval Force had been working at a tactical level with the Russians, and that EU Naval Force personnel talked to the Russian crew by VHF radio. He said the EU had offered support to the Russians.

The attack occurred about 500 miles (800 kilometers) east of the Somali coast as the Moscow University sailed from the Red Sea to China, the ship's owner said. Novoship is a subsidiary of Sovcomflot, which is owned by the Russian government.

The military intervention follows a trend. International military forces have been more aggressively combating piracy. EU Naval Force ships are disrupting pirate groups and destroying their ships at a much higher rate than in previous years. U.S. warships have fired back on pirates and destroyed their boats in several skirmishes in the last several weeks.

In February, Danish special forces prevented the hijacking of a ship after pirates had boarded it. Special forces from the Danish Absalon boarded the Ariella while the crew locked themselves in a secure room.

Still, pirates are holding more than 300 hostages taken from ships off East Africa in the last several months.

On Wednesday, a French prosecutor said a French rescuer was responsible for killing the skipper of a sailboat hijacked by Somali pirates during a rescue operation.

Chief prosecutor Hever Pavy in the western French city of Rennes said investigators found a French military bullet had killed Florent Lemacon in April 2009 when a special intervention team came to rescue his yacht, the Tanit, off the Somali coast.

Four other hostages were saved after a week on the hijacked ship. Three suspected pirates who survived the rescue operation are on trial in France.

DJ's left nut · 05-06-2010, 02:03 PM

When the Russians hang those pirates by their dicks and let them slowly starve, that may convince the Somalians to stop dicking around with Russian tankers.

I'm telling you, cruel and unusual is the only thing that's going to have an impact on folks that live in a cesspool like Somalia.

Note: This is equally applicable to New Jersey and could be used to stop the spread of guido douchebags.

**pr_capone** · 05-06-2010, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

news article

Riposte!

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...0&postcount=35

ToxSocks · 05-06-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

When the Russians hang those pirates by their dicks and let them slowly starve, that may convince the Somalians to stop dicking around with Russian tankers.

I'm telling you, cruel and unusual is the only thing that's going to have an impact on folks that live in a cesspool like Somalia.

Note: This is equally applicable to New Jersey and could be used to stop the spread of guido douchebags.

Death by dick asphyxiation?

Nixhex · 05-06-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88

I have read an article somewhere that these Pirates are like Robin Hoods. They steal the money and share it with tribes and the people of their villages. I have also read that there's some serious nuclear waste being dumped there so it's their way of retaliation. Regardless of all of that, it's poor people who want to eat, I don't think any kind of punishment would really deter them. The entire country has been ****ed for the past 14 years.

Pants · 05-06-2010, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King

it's Russia.... the last thing they're seriously concerned about is laws... If they sank a ship, noone would miss that ship as long as the russians kept their mouths shut..

I think the issue there is that you can't dock a ship with assault rifles and RPGs on board. Or do you want civilian tankers and freighters to be equipped with military grade (obviously) ship-sinking weapons all to be operated by civilians? I think people's hands are simply tied on this, not sure what can be done unless international laws are changed.

05-05-2010, 05:26 PM
Msmith Veteran Join Date: Jan 2004 Casino cash: $9048035	Russian tanker hi-jacked, warship sent NAIROBI (Reuters) – Somali pirates hijacked a Russian tanker carrying $52 million worth of crude oil and 23 crew on Wednesday, prompting Russia to send a warship to try to deal with the incident, officials said. Pirates who hijacked the China-bound, Russian-owned MV Moscow University tanker 350 miles off the coast of Yemen warned against any rescue attempt, saying this would endanger the Russian crew. "A Russian warship is moving toward the tanker," Russian defense ministry spokesman Alexei Kuznetsov said. The Chief of the Russian General Staff cut short a visit to NATO headquarters in Brussels to coordinate the military's response, he added. The vessel had been traveling under a Liberian flag from Sudan to the Chinese port of Nigbo with 86,000 tonnes of oil owned by Chinese refiner Unipec, a Russian shipping source said. Maritime experts said the tanker had a deadweight of 106,474 tonnes. "The crew members locked themselves in the radar room. This ship has been hijacked," Commander Rear Admiral Jan Thornqvist of the European Union's Navfor naval force told reporters in the Kenyan port of Mombasa. Somali sea bandits continue to outwit an international fleet of warships in the busy shipping lane linking Europe with Asia, raking in tens of millions of dollars in ransoms. One pirate who identified himself as Abdi said the tanker was heading to a pirate haven on the coast of central Somalia. "Any attempt to rescue the ship will certainly endanger the crew. The ship will be docked at Garacad," Abdi told Reuters by telephone, adding it was too early to talk about a ransom. NO ATTACK PLANNED Russia's permanent representative to NATO, Dmitry Rogozin, said the warship would not attack the tanker as the safety of the crew was the top priority, Interfax news agency reported. The ship will reach the tanker at around 2100 GMT, he said. Some oil tankers are sailing around southern Africa and further east into the Indian Ocean away from Somalia's coastline to avoid the Gulf of Aden and pirates who are striking deeper out at sea, shipping experts say. But many are running the gauntlet through the busy Gulf of Aden shipping lane, where warships operate convoys and have set up transit corridors. The tanker had not registered with the Maritime Security Center Horn of Africa, EU NAVFOR said. The use of mother ships has enabled Somali pirates to strike as far as the Mozambique Channel and off India's coast in recent months, launching smaller boats known as skiffs against ships. About 7 percent of world oil consumption passes through the Gulf of Aden. Last weekend, Somali insurgent group Hizbul Islam seized the pirate haven of Haradheere and pledged to take control of more towns in the region, the rebel group said. So, would the Russians flex the muscle or meow like a pussycat? Link
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Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1170477	Russian Special Forces Storm Oil Tanker From Helicopter, Free Crew and Arrest Somali Pirates Associated Press ABOARD THE SWEDISH WARSHIP CARLSKRONA Russian special forces rappelled onto a disabled oil tanker taken over by Somali pirates and freed 23 Russian sailors early Thursday, the commander o... print email share recommend (0) ABOARD THE SWEDISH WARSHIP CARLSKRONA — Russian special forces rappelled onto a disabled oil tanker taken over by Somali pirates and freed 23 Russian sailors early Thursday, the commander of the EU Naval Force said. Ten pirates were arrested and one was killed. The raid on the Liberian-flagged ship Moscow University came 24 hours after pirates had taken the ship over and the crew locked itself in a safe room. The vessel is carrying 86,000 tons of crude oil worth about $50 million. The special forces had been aboard the Russian anti-submarine destroyer Marshal Shaposhnikov, which rushed to the scene after Wednesday's seajacking. A helicopter was dispatched to investigate and was fired on by the pirates, EU Naval Force said. The Russian warship returned fire on the pirates, it said. Special forces troops on the helicopter rappelled down to the Moscow University, Rear Adm. Jan Thornqvist, force commander of the EU Naval Force, told an Associated Press reporter aboard the warship Carlskrona, which on Thursday was 500 miles (800 kilometers) west of Thursday's rescue and was sailing toward Somali waters. Ten pirates were detained and one pirate was killed, the Russian state news agency ITAR-Tass cited Vladimir Markin as saying. Markin is the spokesman for Russia's Investigative Committee. There are wounded pirates, he said without giving details. Russian officials were preparing for the pirates to be delivered to Moscow to face criminal charges, Markin said. The crew of the Moscow University had previously told officials they believed the pirates were trying to enter the engine room, Thornqvist said. The ship had been disabled and was not moving. Safe rooms, where crews seek shelter, are typically stocked with food, water and communications equipment and have reinforced doors that can only be opened from the inside. The ship's owner, Novoship, said the decision to free the ship was made knowing "that the crew was under safe cover inaccessible to the pirates and that the lives and health of the sailors was not threatened by anything." Cmdr. John Harbour, a spokesman for the EU Naval Force, called the rescue "an excellent operation all around." He said the EU Naval Force had been working at a tactical level with the Russians, and that EU Naval Force personnel talked to the Russian crew by VHF radio. He said the EU had offered support to the Russians. The attack occurred about 500 miles (800 kilometers) east of the Somali coast as the Moscow University sailed from the Red Sea to China, the ship's owner said. Novoship is a subsidiary of Sovcomflot, which is owned by the Russian government. The military intervention follows a trend. International military forces have been more aggressively combating piracy. EU Naval Force ships are disrupting pirate groups and destroying their ships at a much higher rate than in previous years. U.S. warships have fired back on pirates and destroyed their boats in several skirmishes in the last several weeks. In February, Danish special forces prevented the hijacking of a ship after pirates had boarded it. Special forces from the Danish Absalon boarded the Ariella while the crew locked themselves in a secure room. Still, pirates are holding more than 300 hostages taken from ships off East Africa in the last several months. On Wednesday, a French prosecutor said a French rescuer was responsible for killing the skipper of a sailboat hijacked by Somali pirates during a rescue operation. Chief prosecutor Hever Pavy in the western French city of Rennes said investigators found a French military bullet had killed Florent Lemacon in April 2009 when a special intervention team came to rescue his yacht, the Tanit, off the Somali coast. Four other hostages were saved after a week on the hijacked ship. Three suspected pirates who survived the rescue operation are on trial in France.
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