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vailpass · 09-07-2010, 05:14 PM

I'm guessing a couple people here will recognize some of these doings. Long read but good. No cussing here but if you click the link to the rest of the story there are some cusswords so potentially NSFW

Dog Beat Dog: To Pull Off the Biggest Pit Bull Fighting Bust in U.S. History, Investigators and Their Dogs Went Undercover

By Keegan Hamilton Thursday, Sep 2 2010
The grainy footage shows two snarling pit bulls in a dimly lit barn, staring each other down through a haze of cigarette smoke. Walled in by a makeshift ring of three-foot-high plywood boards, the collarless dogs twitch and wag their tails, expending nervous energy like prizefighters shadowboxing in the ring in the moments before the opening bell.

Both dogs are males and have a tan coat and a white belly, which makes it difficult to tell them apart. They're about 10 months old — young for fighters. This is their first taste of combat.

Each dog has a handler who grips it by the scruff of the neck and positions it opposite its foe in the corner of the 16-by-16-foot ring. When they're released, the pit bulls collide with a dull thud. One dog lands on its back and the other pounces, grabbing hold with its jaws. The two animals spend the next several minutes growling and panting, locked in a ferocious struggle.

John Bacon, who owns the dog that's on top, bends at the waist and rests his hands on the knees of his baggy overalls, hovering close to the tangle of fur and flesh. He cajoles his pit bull to release its bite and improve its position. The dogs tumble over one another and Bacon jumps out of the way. "There you go!" he shouts. "That's where you want to be!"

The other dog is getting mauled. It emits a piercing squeal, followed by a whimper. Laughter ripples through the crowd. Joseph Addison, a spectator who wears his hair in a jumble of chin-length braids, suggests it's time to stop the match.

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http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2010-...nt-undercover/

MOhillbilly · 09-08-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

"Civilized society" also had slavery for centuries. Turns out that society might actually grow in what they determine is civilized.

As far as my "right to tell someone else what is right and wrong", it's not so much based on my personal feelings, as it is based on the laws created, modeled after the values and morals of society.

Don't act like this is some fringe agenda. An overwhelming majority of the people you encounter in your life are not going to be in favor of dog fighting. You aren't going to put it in your personals add, on your resume, or in your eulogy. there's a reason it's happening in shitty barns in the armpits backwoods of this country, and it's not because my feelings are too easily hurt.

And its always been this way. Aslong as you have two dogs, men will fight them. "societies moral laws/values" will never stop it.
People should be worried about more important things than dogs & dogfighters.
When have they(a dogfighter or gamedog) ever bothered you in a personal way JSP?

jspchief · 09-08-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

And its always been this way. Aslong as you have two dogs, men will fight them. "societies moral laws/values" will never stop it.
People should be worried about more important things than dogs & dogfighters.
When have they(a dogfighter or gamedog) ever bothered you in a personal way JSP?

They have never bothered me in a personal way, beyond the fact that I find the idea of it unusually cruel to a type of animal that I have an emotional connection to.

It's not like this is some personal crusade. I don't know that I've ever even talked about it outside of this BB. However, every time the subject arises here, there are inevitably people trying to explain away the average person's disgust as unreasonable, when it's clearly just the opposite. I respond to that.

MOhillbilly · 09-08-2010, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

They have never bothered me in a personal way, beyond the fact that I find the idea of it unusually cruel to a type of animal that I have an emotional connection to.

It's not like this is some personal crusade. I don't know that I've ever even talked about it outside of this BB. However, every time the subject arises here, there are inevitably people trying to explain away the average person's disgust as unreasonable, when it's clearly just the opposite. I respond to that.

Fair enough.

Delano · 09-08-2010, 02:28 PM

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eazyb81 · 09-08-2010, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

I wouldn't choose dog-fighting as my favorite pastime. However, it has been going on for as long as humans and dogs have been joined. If you're going to get all uppity about dog-fighting then I had better see you at every single anti-war rally and there better not be a piece of meat anywhere near your mouth. It's only recently that the media has brought this country "sport" to the limelight and animal lovers have been horrified.

Do I agree with everything about it? Absolutely not. But these animals are bred and raised specifically for sporting. You know, kinda like the steak you had last night on the grill was raised so you could enjoy the succulent taste of beef in your mouth.

Wow what a terrible analogy. Eating animals for nourishment and fighting animals for entertainment are hardly comparable.

BIG_DADDY · 09-08-2010, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

What the **** does war and vegetarianism have to do with cruelty to dogs by making them fight and tear each other up?

Oh, okay, so, 'cause we didn't know about it, it was cool.

First of all, these dogs are not "bred and raised" for "sporting": they're tortured and harassed to make them mean, and then set on each other to tear each other apart for the amusement of what I'll loosely call "people".

Second, again, you CANNOT COMPARE dogfighting to food-stock. I don't even eat red meat or fowl and even I know this. Animals that are raised for consumption do not equate with animals who are raised to rip into each other so we can illegally bet on it. Could we kill our meat-animals a little more humanely, and treat them better beforehand? Sure. Does it have anything to do with dogfighting? No.

With all due respect for your right to have an opinion and be against it you have no idea what your talking about.

eazyb81 · 09-08-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

With all due respect for your right to have an opinion and be against it you have no idea what your talking about.

So with this comment are you implying that APBTs are naturally mean dogs, and torturing/harassing them has no impact on how mean they can become?

MOhillbilly · 09-08-2010, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

So with this comment are you implying that APBTs are naturally mean dogs, and torturing/harassing them has no impact on how mean they can become?

tell us what you know first.

Pitt Gorilla · 09-08-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by go bowe

ok then...

does this mean you're pro-choice and pro gay marriage???

Of course he is; ChiefsPlanet posters are NOTHING but consistent.

JD10367 · 09-08-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

With all due respect for your right to have an opinion and be against it you have no idea what your talking about.

Go ahead, enlighten me. Explain how they're kept, how they're trained, and what they do to each other in the fighting ring, and how any of it is humane or intrinsic to the dogs and not done just because some sick ****tards have nothing better to do with their time.

BIG_DADDY · 09-08-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

So with this comment are you implying that APBTs are naturally mean dogs, and torturing/harassing them has no impact on how mean they can become?

Torturing/harrassing them would only turn the dog into a cur. That is the last thing a dog man wants. There is so much disinformation out there on this subject I understand why people might think they know what's going on but they really have no friggen idea.

Brock · 09-08-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

I don't even eat red meat or fowl and even I know this.

This + Smart car = Get the **** out of here, hippy.

JD10367 · 09-08-2010, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Torturing/harrassing them would only turn the dog into a cur. That is the last thing a dog man wants. There is so much disinformation out there on this subject I understand why people might think they know what's going on but they really have no friggen idea.

Yeah. We're all misinformed. Dogfighting is really just harmless fun. The dogs actually enjoy it. They're kept in large kennels with plush beds, and at the first sign of blood someone yells "stop" and they all get Milk-Bones.

I'll make it simple. This is my own personal opinion: dogfighters, and anyone who even remotely condones it, are ****heads.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-08-2010, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

This + Smart car = Get the **** out of here, hippy.

JD10367 · 09-08-2010, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

This + Smart car = Get the **** out of here, hippy.

My dick. Suck it.

09-07-2010, 05:14 PM
vailpass Psycho Bag Of Squanch Join Date: Sep 2001 Casino cash: $9594244	Dog Beat Dog-Pit Bull Sting in Missouri/Midwest I'm guessing a couple people here will recognize some of these doings. Long read but good. No cussing here but if you click the link to the rest of the story there are some cusswords so potentially NSFW Dog Beat Dog: To Pull Off the Biggest Pit Bull Fighting Bust in U.S. History, Investigators and Their Dogs Went Undercover By Keegan Hamilton Thursday, Sep 2 2010 The grainy footage shows two snarling pit bulls in a dimly lit barn, staring each other down through a haze of cigarette smoke. Walled in by a makeshift ring of three-foot-high plywood boards, the collarless dogs twitch and wag their tails, expending nervous energy like prizefighters shadowboxing in the ring in the moments before the opening bell. Both dogs are males and have a tan coat and a white belly, which makes it difficult to tell them apart. They're about 10 months old — young for fighters. This is their first taste of combat. Each dog has a handler who grips it by the scruff of the neck and positions it opposite its foe in the corner of the 16-by-16-foot ring. When they're released, the pit bulls collide with a dull thud. One dog lands on its back and the other pounces, grabbing hold with its jaws. The two animals spend the next several minutes growling and panting, locked in a ferocious struggle. John Bacon, who owns the dog that's on top, bends at the waist and rests his hands on the knees of his baggy overalls, hovering close to the tangle of fur and flesh. He cajoles his pit bull to release its bite and improve its position. The dogs tumble over one another and Bacon jumps out of the way. "There you go!" he shouts. "That's where you want to be!" The other dog is getting mauled. It emits a piercing squeal, followed by a whimper. Laughter ripples through the crowd. Joseph Addison, a spectator who wears his hair in a jumble of chin-length braids, suggests it's time to stop the match. continued at: http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2010-...nt-undercover/
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