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Old 11-11-2010, 07:41 PM  
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Let's face facts: we're going to have to bonus-up on Matt Cassel.
There's been a few conversations this season that keep asking the question "if we don't drop Cassel to get out of the bonus he's due..."

I mean, just stop. Cassel will survive the offseason and will likely be our starter next year.

Even if Pioli and Haley understood what we all know to be true, which is that Cassel is not that answer and is not a franchise QB, than acquiring one is damn near impossible.

Who would be available this offseason? A few stopgaps, none of them franchise guys. (A thread will no doubt be started about McNabb, but he's not a Pioli guy.) And we'll be too busy looking for a backup QB anyway when we let Croyle go -- and we don't even have a third stringer to fall back on.

The #1 opportunity we have at a franchise QB is to reach for a second-round quality guy with high character with our mid-to-late pick in the first round to ensure we don't get leapfrogged.

Christian Ponder (Florida State)
Nick Foles (Arizona)
Nathan Enderle (Idaho)

Somebody like that is the only chance this team has at a young, franchise guy, and that is the only way we are acquiring him.

And there's the catch -- even if we acquire a guy like that, we still need Cassel because rookie QBs almost never start from the first game. Cassel can be a valuable backup, and a stopgap while the rookie takes his time to get the system down. Cassel, in the mean time, will never be a drag in the locker room, so Haley and Pioli will hang on to him for the versatility he provides to their QB decisions.

Even if the stud does start right away, and Cassel really does get the shaft from Day One of the 2011 season, he is a guy who will always do what he's asked and will do it the best he can, which the staff obviously values above all else. And as fans, we should value that as well.

Like or dislike Cassel, he's got an arrowhead on the side of his helmet for a few more years. In what capacity, we don't know.
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:56 PM   #46
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What would be the opinion of the planet if Romo came available? Just curious. I think he is going to.
I would the whole thing, most likely. unless his shoulder is so ****ed up he won't play again, we should the whole thing.
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:57 PM   #47
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I say sign McNabb and draft a QB.
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:58 PM   #48
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I say sign McNabb and draft a QB.
I would most of the thing.
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:02 PM   #49
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:06 PM   #50
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If Romo came available for a second rounder...maybe even a second and future pick, I absolutely would trade for him. No question.

Here is the rest of his $$$

2011-2012: $9 million, 2013: $11.5 million, 2014: Free Agent

Also, remember he is a Parcells bred quarterback.

Not.

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Happen.

Though.
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:15 PM   #51
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I went back and looked at his game breakdowns. 3 turds and 2 good games.

It appears when he is good he is good and when he is bad he is real bad.

He was God awful against GB and Tennessee.
He also has an offensive line that I believe is one of the worst in the NFL. Not surprising that he's had mixed results against teams that can really get after the passer.
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:17 PM   #52
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I just think Kolb is pretty much the exact same guy as Matt Cassel
Except that he's accurate, looks at more than one receiver, has a relatively strong arm, and has seen success even when teams aren't loading 9 guys in the box.

Other than that, Kolb and Cassel are the exact same QB.
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:00 PM   #53
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:06 PM   #54
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The coaches already dont have confidence in Cassel based on the plays being called and the heavy use of running plays. When you start running the ball on 3-7, 3-8, instead of passing, because you have a better chance in picking up the first down you know they have 0 faith in Cassel. Unless he comes out and puts up top 5 QB #'s he isn't going to be getting that bonus. He's a backup QB and even if you take the bonus out 5-9mil a year after that is still too much for a backup. But as it stands right now his stats leave no incentive for him to renegotiate his contract. So as it stands right now its bye bye Cassel.
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:16 PM   #55
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The Boise State QB is supposedly pretty good & probably can be had in the later rounds.
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:20 PM   #56
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The Boise State QB is supposedly pretty good & probably can be had in the later rounds.
Absolutely not.

Not only is he not QB material. The Chiefs need to stop settling for QBs. They need to proactively go out and get the best guy they can get.
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Old 11-12-2010, 02:41 AM   #57
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The coaches already dont have confidence in Cassel based on the plays being called and the heavy use of running plays. When you start running the ball on 3-7, 3-8, instead of passing, because you have a better chance in picking up the first down you know they have 0 faith in Cassel. Unless he comes out and puts up top 5 QB #'s he isn't going to be getting that bonus. He's a backup QB and even if you take the bonus out 5-9mil a year after that is still too much for a backup. But as it stands right now his stats leave no incentive for him to renegotiate his contract. So as it stands right now its bye bye Cassel.
Do you even follow the Chiefs? We run because we can, and we are good at it. We run on 3-7 and such because we have the philosphy that we will go for it on 3rd down.
It IS NOT a reflection of Cassel, it's a reflection of our head coach.

I'm not defending Cassel, but at least base your arguments on the truth, not what you want to believe. I do not believe Cassel is the answer to our QB situation, But I'm not gonna let that cloud my thinking on why our offense does what it does. WE ARE a running team, first & foremost, not because our QB sucks (and he does) but because we have a GREAT running game.
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Old 11-12-2010, 03:28 AM   #58
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Pioli and Haley are not ****ing dumb.

If Cassel costs us the playoffs or a playoff game I think he'll be toast.
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Old 11-12-2010, 03:32 AM   #59
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Pioli and Haley are not ****ing dumb.

If Cassel costs us the playoffs or a playoff game I think he'll be toast.
I don't know why you'd think they'd lose a guy who busts his ass for this team, is a standup guy and is generally liked by his teammates.

I think they find a way to renegotiate. But even then, I think they'd actually drop 10 mil on the guy for all the versatility he gives the decisions they make at the position.
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Old 11-12-2010, 03:40 AM   #60
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I don't know why you'd think they'd lose a guy who busts his ass for this team, is a standup guy and is generally liked by his teammates.
Belichick didn't hesitate to get rid of Bledsoe.

I guess we don't really know what they're gonna do. The smart thing is, if he's a liability, you dump him.

This decision will define Pioli.
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