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Old 11-21-2011, 01:11 PM  
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AFCW - so is Oakland going to win it?
Granted... I don't see the AFCW Champion doing anything in the playoffs, barring some fantastic wildcard weekend match-up with another struggling team.

At this point, through week 11:

Raiders 6-4 / 2-2 div (split with Den)
Broncos 5-5 / 2-2 div
Chiefs 4-5* / 2-2 div
Chargers 4-6 / 2-2 div

Raiders remaining: CHI / @ MIA / @ GBP / DET / @ KCC / SDC
Broncos remaining: @ SDC / @ MIN / CHI / NEP / @ BUF / KCC
Chiefs remaining: @ NEP / PIT / @ CHI / @ NYJ / GBP / OAK / @ DEN
Chargers remaining: DEN / @ JAX / BUF / BAL / @ DET / @ OAK

Are the Raiders sitting pretty with only a 1 game lead?

I think the Chiefs have a pretty brutal stretch...
I have no idea how to project Denver - looks tough, but with Cutler and the Bills falling... it's not horrible.
Chargers ... I just don't know what to expect, another late season rally?

Raiders ... I could see them pulling this off and again, I realize it means very little, but looking ahead can be fun.

The Broncos really need to beat SD this week... if they can do this, then anything is possible, but even at 4-6, the Chargers are dangerous - lots of talent.

I would like to find a way for Oakland not to win the division, but it looks like they have a strong chance.
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:10 PM   #46
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Famous CBS Sports Professional Expert Clark Judge Opinion: Oakland not only wins the AFC West, but they'll go deep into the playoffs.

Oakland not only wins the AFC West, but they'll go deep into the playoffs. I mean it. Carson Palmer makes them dangerous, and while I was skeptical what he could do coming off the couch to play, the last two weeks convinced me he's the right man in the right place. Keep in mind, each of those wins were achieved without Darren McFadden, the Raiders' top playmaker. And keep this in mind, too -- Oakland is 4-1 on the road, losing only when it blew an 18-point lead to Buffalo the second week of the season. The knock on the Raiders was that they couldn't win non-division games. Well, this just in: They're 4-2 against opponents outside the AFC West.

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Old 11-21-2011, 11:03 PM   #47
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Famous CBS Sports Professional Expert Clark Judge Opinion: Oakland not only wins the AFC West, but they'll go deep into the playoffs.

Oakland not only wins the AFC West, but they'll go deep into the playoffs. I mean it. Carson Palmer makes them dangerous, and while I was skeptical what he could do coming off the couch to play, the last two weeks convinced me he's the right man in the right place. Keep in mind, each of those wins were achieved without Darren McFadden, the Raiders' top playmaker. And keep this in mind, too -- Oakland is 4-1 on the road, losing only when it blew an 18-point lead to Buffalo the second week of the season. The knock on the Raiders was that they couldn't win non-division games. Well, this just in: They're 4-2 against opponents outside the AFC West.

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Old 11-21-2011, 11:21 PM   #48
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Old 11-21-2011, 11:28 PM   #49
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Every team in the AFC West has scenarios where they could win the division with 7 wins.
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Old 11-21-2011, 11:29 PM   #50
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Old 11-21-2011, 11:39 PM   #51
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So this would be the most hilarious season of all time if the Chiefs lost the next three to drop to 4-9. We then rip off 3 wins against GB, Oakland, and Denver to finish 7-9 and win the division through tiebreakers. Then we play ugly ball in the playoffs, and somehow luck our way through to win the SB.

So what i am saying is: there's a chance.
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:41 AM   #52
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:39 AM   #53
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We're too far behind, with too many injuries and too many good teams on the schedule, plus we're just not playing well.

The Chargers are doing their annual self-destruction, plus they've got Choker Norv at the helm. They're too far behind and have too many problems.

Denver is a terrible team. Tebow is a terrible quarterback. They've been lucky.

As much as it pains me to say it, Oakland will probably back their way into the division title, and thus will earn the right to get pulverized by the Ravens in the first round.
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Old 11-22-2011, 09:10 AM   #54
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The Chargers are doing their annual self-destruction, plus they've got Choker Norv at the helm. They're too far behind and have too many problems.
The San Diego Chargers Will Fire Norv Turner - John Gennaro, Bolts from the Blue

Norv Turner's time in San Diego is almost over, I'm convinced. If he's still the Head Coach of the San Diego Chargers in 2012, I will eat my hat.

I've told anyone that has asked about Norv's job security that he was safe if the Chargers made the playoffs this season. If they didn't, he could be gone. Now, with the prospect of no playoffs for two consecutive years looming and the main reasons being that Norv's offense and his star pupil (Philip Rivers) are performing miserably, it seems like a sure thing.

7 of the 9 remaining games for the Chargers are against teams with winning records. 4 are against teams with at least 5 wins. The Chargers are 1-3 against teams they've played that currently have winning records, with that one win coming against the Chiefs (who are still not a very good team).

The San Diego Chargers have deteriorated into a bad team. They have no pass rush, they can't stop the run, they have issues in the secondary and they spend more time turning the ball over on offense than actually scoring. These aren't problems that will fix themselves, they are issues that have gotten worse and worse under Norv Turner's tenure as the coach.

The likeliest outcome from 2011 is now that the Raiders win the division and the Chargers are sitting at home again, "elite QB" and all. That is what it would take for the Spanos family and A.J. Smith to give up on Norv Turner as a Head Coach.

The number one reason Norv was hired was Philip Rivers. Rivers was going to will this team to a Super Bowl, as long as he had an Offensive Coordinator that could get the most out of him. That man was Norv, but when Rivers is leading the league in turnovers and the team is losing because of him (or winning in spite of him)....that job security as "Philip Rivers' mentor" sort of goes away.

Rivers is the only one that can save Norv Turner's job now. If he somehow turns back into 2009-2010 Rivers and carries the team to the playoffs on his back (with an MVP-like second half of the season), Turner could be safe. Otherwise, things will need to change in a hurry. A.J. Smith might have great respect for Norv, but he has no patience for missing the playoffs.

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The San Diego Chargers Will Fire Norv Turner - John Gennaro, Bolts from the Blue

Norv Turner's time in San Diego is almost over, I'm convinced. If he's still the Head Coach of the San Diego Chargers in 2012, I will eat my hat. [etc.]
I grew up in Maryland, and lived there until last August, so I heard every bit of Norv Turner news while he was with the Redskins. I felt actually bad for the Chargers when I heard that they were getting him, because I knew that all of this was ahead of them.
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We're too far behind, with too many injuries and too many good teams on the schedule, plus we're just not playing well.

The Chargers are doing their annual self-destruction, plus they've got Choker Norv at the helm. They're too far behind and have too many problems.

Denver is a terrible team. Tebow is a terrible quarterback. They've been lucky.

As much as it pains me to say it, Oakland will probably back their way into the division title, and thus will earn the right to get pulverized by the Ravens in the first round.
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Now you know damn well you would be happy to make the playoffs and get beat by anyone...

You will never win another Superbowl with an attitude like that.
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Bull****ingshit If a team cannot compete for a ring the next best thing is winning your division. This site flew the 2010 title across the top of the site all off season and still was last time I looked. Chiefs fans have answered every question about last season with "we won the west and you guys didnt"

They did and it beat the hell out of anything the rest of the west did last year. As far as the suck for luck crowd, hows that working out for you? As a fan at least as what I see as a fan, you pull for team to win and during the bad season you hope they play spoiler. Then again there are those who have new gear because they burn what they have when their team struggles~
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