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#chiefs have placed the franchise tag on wr Dwayne Bowe.

Chiefs make Bowe their franchise player

The Chiefs today named Dwayne Bowe, their top wide receiver the past five seasons, as their franchise player, a move that effectively keeps him off the free-agent market.

As part of that transaction, the Chiefs offered Bowe a one-year contract worth about $9.5 million. Bowe can sign the contract at any time or the sides could negotiate a long-term contract.

As the franchise player, Bowe could still negotiate a contract with another team. But the Chiefs would have the right to match the offer and retain Bowe. If they decline to match, the Chiefs would lose Bowe but receive two first-round draft picks as compensation.

Read more here: http://chiefsblog.kansascity.com/?q=...#storylink=cpy

-King- · 03-05-2012, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by COchief

Top flight receivers are tough to come by. Plus we have a bazillion dollars in cap room. How hard of a decision is it? Plus he's going to sign long term anyways eventually, so the only difference in the end result I can see is that we let Carr walk for nothing instead of a tag and trade for a 1st or 2nd.

All because Pioli failed to do his job.

Have you ever negotiated over millions of dollars before?

KCrockaholic · 03-05-2012, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

To me forgiven is signing Bowe, tagging Carr, and getting a first or even a 2nd for himi.

What I meant was he would be forgiven for allowing Carr to walk if we take that money we saved by not signing Carr, and used it on Peyton.

Ultimately the scenario you mentioned was ideal, but that is no longer possible. I'm trying to find a way for Pioli to dig out of a hole and make something happen QB wise.

BWillie · 03-05-2012, 03:13 PM

So why wouldn't you franchise Carr? And then trade him. Doubt we could get a 1st and a 3rd out of him, is that what picks you have to get from it? How does that work

COchief · 03-05-2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Why would a team give the chiefs a 1 or a 2? when they know the chiefs are gonna trade him? Chiefs would have no leverage.

I never thought of it that way, you're right they wouldn't have any levera...oh wait, what about Jay Cutler and countless other players in exact same situation and the Broncos got a boatload of picks for him.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 03-05-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by COchief

Top flight receivers are tough to come by. Plus we have a bazillion dollars in cap room. How hard of a decision is it? Plus he's going to sign long term anyways eventually, so the only difference in the end result I can see is that we let Carr walk for nothing instead of a tag and trade for a 1st or 2nd.

All because Pioli failed to do his job.

For the tenth time they don't have alot of cap room now at 30m

Let say they sign bowe 10m Tag carr another 10m 5m for draft what the **** you gonna do with 5m in FA?

-King- · 03-05-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by COchief

I never thought of it that way, you're right they wouldn't have any levera...oh wait, what about Jay Cutler and countless other players in exact same situation and the Broncos got a boatload of picks for him.

You're comparing a franchise QB to a cornerback.

KCrockaholic · 03-05-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by COchief

I never thought of it that way, you're right they wouldn't have any levera...oh wait, what about Jay Cutler and countless other players in exact same situation and the Broncos got a boatload of picks for him.

You're comparing a top 10 QB to a top 10 CB.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 03-05-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by COchief

I never thought of it that way, you're right they wouldn't have any levera...oh wait, what about Jay Cutler and countless other players in exact same situation and the Broncos got a boatload of picks for him.

Its a QB not a CB man you are funny.

KCrockaholic · 03-05-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

You're comparing a franchise QB to a cornerback.

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

You're comparing a top 10 QB to a top 10 CB.

NJChiefsFan · 03-05-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Why would a team give the chiefs a 1 or a 2? when they know the chiefs are gonna trade him? Chiefs would have no leverage.

Why did the Chiefs give up a 2 for Cassel then? Or why did any other player get tagged and traded? Hell even a 3 would be better than nothing. The levearge the Chiefs could create is making DET and DAL bid for Carr. I doubt both DET and DAL would pass up on him if it meant a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Get them to both want him and you could make it a 1 or 2.

COchief · 03-05-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Have you ever negotiated over millions of dollars before?

Actually I have dipshit, I've handled the Costco contract along with the unbelievable amount of returns for various companies so eat a bag of dicks.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 03-05-2012, 03:17 PM

If we sign Manning we won't need Carr because our defense won't be on the field 59 minutes each game. Having a real QB is gonna put our Defense in the top 5 automatically.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 03-05-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Why did the Chiefs give up a 2 for Cassel then? Or why did any other player get tagged and traded? Hell even a 3 would be better than nothing. The levearge the Chiefs could create is making DET and DAL bid for Carr. I doubt both DET and DAL would pass up on him if it meant a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Get them to both want him and you could make it a 1 or 2.

What if those teams don't wanna trade for carr and you're on the hook for 10.6m this year?

COchief · 03-05-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

You're comparing a franchise QB to a cornerback.

Franchise QB is extremely debatable, but I'll play along. Wes Welker, Brandon Marshall???

BryanBusby · 03-05-2012, 03:18 PM

These recent posts jfc

Guys, the Chiefs would be signing next to no free agents outside of their own they want to keep if they somehow re-signed Bowe and franchised Carr. They don't have 60 million in cap space, or close to it.

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