Chiefs Crennel's take on a nose tackle and the chiefs. - Page 4

ShowtimeSBMVP · 03-27-2012, 04:31 PM

Asked specifically about nose tackle, where last season’s starter, Kelly Gregg, is an unrestricted free agent, Crennel said, “We’ve talked to some people there, but we’ve told them we’re going to wait until after the draft and see what else might develop. So we have possibilities there.”

Gregg is 35, but he played in all 16 games for the Chiefs last year, starting 14. Crennel said the Chiefs might attempt to re-sign Gregg after the draft.

“I thought he did a good job for us,” Crennel said. “He used up the blockers so that the linebackers were free to make plays. If you talk to any of those linebackers, particularly the inside linebackers, they’ll tell you that they enjoyed having him in front of them. He allowed both of those guys to make plays.

“I’m not ruling Kelly out. I think he would like to come back and play. I think he likes the situation. He understands how we coach. He knows what defense we’re going to run. I think if he has the opportunity he would not be opposed to coming back.”

Otherwise, the Chiefs at nose tackle have veteran Amon Gordon and Jerrell Powe, a rookie last season. Gordon played in 16 games for the Chiefs last season, starting twice. But the Chiefs value him more for his versatility than his ability to handle the nose on an every-down basis.

“He came in last year and did an admirable job for us,’’ Crennel said. “He produced and made some plays at times. I know he can go into the game and do it.’’

The 330-pound Powe, a sixth-round draft choice last year, played in just one game as a rookie. But he could figure in the Chiefs’ plans this year.

“He’s a big, physical body,’’ Crennel said. “He had last year to learn what it takes to play in this league. The thing about him is that he didn’t really have an off-season last year (because of the lockout). By him being able to have an off-season this year, he’s going to get so much better. We’ll be able to work with him on his techniques and talk to him about how to play the game. I think we’ll see an improvement in his play

http://www.kansascity.com/2012...into-draft.html

**HemiEd** · 03-28-2012, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Actually, of you read between the lines, he tells you something really important.

It seems clear that the Chiefs are targeting a NT in this draft.

I'm not sure that's going to be Poe, because in all likelyhood, he'll be there when the Chiefs draft at #11.

It appears, at least to me, they will be targeting a second or third round guy, and if they don't get the guy(s) they are targeting they'll look to sign someone after the draft.

Your "between the line" reader is coming up different than mine, but you might be right.

The way I read it, all options are open, and they will look at all of them.

Free agents returning, developing existing talent, and drafting new talent.

Furthermore, one thing I have learned on this place, this close to the draft, any information is usually bull shit.

milkman · 03-28-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KCDC

I agree he is telling us that NT is not a first round target, but is a target. The way Pioli is, he insists on misinformation -- to pretend he is not interested in someone (like taking a Safety early). This could mean that they are targeting a QB (because they consciously avoid mentioning the position) and a NT (since it took a Teicher question to get a response).

Pioli is secretive, but the "doesn't like taking a safety early" was something that Thomas Dimitroff said to Peter King about Scott Pioli.

Crennel, though, isn't as closed as Pioli or Haley.

**HemiEd** · 03-28-2012, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I got that too.

Since there probably won't be a WR there, and they probably won't look past Kirkpatrick's character issues, they may be targeting another pass rusher at #11.

Hope so

**RealSNR** · 03-28-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I got that too.

Since there probably won't be a WR there, and they probably won't look past Kirkpatrick's character issues, they may be targeting another pass rusher at #11.

Kirkpatrick's character issues? I didn't know he had any. Are you talking about Jenkins?

milkman · 03-28-2012, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Kirkpatrick's character issues? I didn't know he had any. Are you talking about Jenkins?

He was arrested earlier this year for weed.

Titty Meat · 03-28-2012, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Poe doesn't sound like a Pioli pick at all. Pioli is a tape watcher. He's not someone who'll over react to combine numbers.

I still think the pick, if not a trade down, will be Kuechly or DeCastro.

Tannehill plz

**RealSNR** · 03-28-2012, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

He was arrested earlier this year for weed.

I hope we draft him. Justin Houston seems kind of lonely when he has to leave team facilities for a few hours every day all by himself so he can give his grandmother her pills. Maybe Kirkpatrick could come along with him to keep him company.

Coogs · 03-28-2012, 01:19 PM

#11 Pass Rushers 3-4 Style

Melvin Ingram South Carolina
Courtney Upshaw Alabama
Nick Perry USC
Whitney Mercilus Illinois

whoman69 · 03-28-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Just say no to Kuechly and DeCastro.

You've said no to everyone from what I've seen.

beach tribe · 03-28-2012, 02:22 PM

This somehow gives me the impression that RAC thinks Powe was way too raw last year, but has the chance to be the guy. That would be sweet.

DTLB58 · 03-28-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Pioli is secretive, but the "doesn't like taking a safety early" was something that Thomas Dimitroff said to Peter King about Scott Pioli.

Crennel, though, isn't as closed as Pioli or Haley.

That's what I thought when I first read it on the Star site.
Wow, isn't that a tad much info to say before the draft? For what we have be accustom to.

KCrockaholic · 03-28-2012, 03:04 PM

We would give ourselves a good problem if we can take Ta'amu in the 2nd to add to the rotation of Gordon, and Powe. Nose would be set for a while.

I'm also not opposed to Chapman of Bama. Basically if we don't take either Ta'amu or Chapman we might as well not even take a NT. Those two are as prototype as you get.

milkman · 03-28-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69

You've said no to everyone from what I've seen.

I'd say yes to Kirpatrick, Ingram, or Mark Barron.

philfree · 03-28-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

He was arrested earlier this year for weed.

I think he might have been absolved from that. If that's possible anyways. They never let me off the hook!

KCrockaholic · 03-28-2012, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I'd say yes to Kirpatrick, Ingram, or Mark Barron.

I haven't paid attention.

You're not a fan of taking a pass rusher such as Perry or a guy like Upshaw who would be a prototype Strong side OLB? And I'm not forgetting Houston. It would give us a great problem. 3rd downs would be scary for opposing offenses.

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ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3436009	Crennel's take on a nose tackle and the chiefs. Asked specifically about nose tackle, where last season’s starter, Kelly Gregg, is an unrestricted free agent, Crennel said, “We’ve talked to some people there, but we’ve told them we’re going to wait until after the draft and see what else might develop. So we have possibilities there.” Gregg is 35, but he played in all 16 games for the Chiefs last year, starting 14. Crennel said the Chiefs might attempt to re-sign Gregg after the draft. “I thought he did a good job for us,” Crennel said. “He used up the blockers so that the linebackers were free to make plays. If you talk to any of those linebackers, particularly the inside linebackers, they’ll tell you that they enjoyed having him in front of them. He allowed both of those guys to make plays. “I’m not ruling Kelly out. I think he would like to come back and play. I think he likes the situation. He understands how we coach. He knows what defense we’re going to run. I think if he has the opportunity he would not be opposed to coming back.” Otherwise, the Chiefs at nose tackle have veteran Amon Gordon and Jerrell Powe, a rookie last season. Gordon played in 16 games for the Chiefs last season, starting twice. But the Chiefs value him more for his versatility than his ability to handle the nose on an every-down basis. “He came in last year and did an admirable job for us,’’ Crennel said. “He produced and made some plays at times. I know he can go into the game and do it.’’ The 330-pound Powe, a sixth-round draft choice last year, played in just one game as a rookie. But he could figure in the Chiefs’ plans this year. “He’s a big, physical body,’’ Crennel said. “He had last year to learn what it takes to play in this league. The thing about him is that he didn’t really have an off-season last year (because of the lockout). By him being able to have an off-season this year, he’s going to get so much better. We’ll be able to work with him on his techniques and talk to him about how to play the game. I think we’ll see an improvement in his play http://www.kansascity.com/2012...into-draft.html
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KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $4582900	We would give ourselves a good problem if we can take Ta'amu in the 2nd to add to the rotation of Gordon, and Powe. Nose would be set for a while. I'm also not opposed to Chapman of Bama. Basically if we don't take either Ta'amu or Chapman we might as well not even take a NT. Those two are as prototype as you get.
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