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Old 04-30-2012, 12:23 PM  
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Chiefs Offer to Manning?

Does anyone know if our initial "offer" to Manning was competitive?

or did he look at it and was like **** this horse shit?
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:21 PM   #46
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he refused to come to KC because he didn't wanna hold Castle's clipboard.
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:22 PM   #47
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Great reference...

Is it not apt? That's the voice I imagine whenever I read one of his posts these days. Just utterly whiny and bitchy to no end.
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:23 PM   #48
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he refused to come to KC because he didn't wanna get hit by Castle's errant hat toss.
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:46 PM   #49
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Is it not apt? That's the voice I imagine whenever I read one of his posts these days. Just utterly whiny and bitchy to no end.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:01 PM   #50
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I can tell you what I heard from sources out of Denver (take it or leave it). I heard that the Chiefs went in talking money first (even made the first offer), whereas Peyton wanted to talk money last, and talk programs and ideas first. What I heard was that while money was obviously important, he didn't want to lead off talking about money and turn it into a bidding war. Instead, he wanted to get to know the people and organizations involved, and then once he found the right one (or two), THEN talk about the money.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:11 PM   #51
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PM was all about money too, don't think it wasn't for one moment!
TJ's post clearly states that kc approached Manning with money FIRST and that rubbed Manning the wrong way. Elway approached Manning with a team first attitude and a "who are we" approach and Manning liked that. Once he felt comfortable with the team, then he discussed money.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:20 PM   #52
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I don't usually listen to Keitzman, but I caught the very first of his rant today. He was saying that Manning basically did his entire rehab in Colorado, so he was very comfortable out there. And that he and Todd Helton are good friends, so that made him even more comfortable.

I turned it off then. Take that for what it's worth.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:34 PM   #53
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I don't usually listen to Keitzman, but I caught the very first of his rant today. He was saying that Manning basically did his entire rehab in Colorado, so he was very comfortable out there. And that he and Todd Helton are good friends, so that made him even more comfortable.
Peyton Manning has been spending a lot of time in Denver with rehab last year and even before that.

One of the points that Keitzman was trying to make, it seemeed to be an important story that was missed when people were trying to figure out where Manning might go when he was a free agent.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:37 PM   #54
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He did a lot of his rehab in Colorado. He was at the Rockies facility a lot last summer, hell he even had his own locker at the Rockies facility and had access to the Rockies training staff. Todd Helton was a huge selling point for Manning.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:38 PM   #55
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He did a lot of his rehab in Colorado. He was at the Rockies facility a lot last summer, hell he even had his own locker at the Rockies facility and had access to the Rockies training staff. Todd Helton was a huge selling point for Manning.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:40 PM   #56
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Broncos QB Manning thanks Helton, Rockies for opening Coors Field during rehabilitation

By Associated Press, Published: April 29AP

DENVER — Peyton Manning felt right at home with Todd Helton and the Colorado Rockies.

Manning dropped by Coors Field on Sunday morning to visit his pal before the Rockies played the New York Mets.

Manning and Helton were quarterbacks at the University of Tennessee in the mid-1990s. Manning recently signed with the Denver Broncos to become their new QB.

When Manning was going through his rehabilitation from neck surgery during the NFL lockout, Helton helped arrange for him to use the Rockies’ facilities to work out.

Manning thanked Helton and the Rockies for their hospitality and generosity. Manning said that when he left the Indianapolis Colts, became a free agent and was deciding on a new team, he already knew Denver was a great sports town.

“He’s a great friend. What he did for me last year, allowing me to use this facility, use the trainers to work out as part of my rehab process,” Manning said. “I’ve come a long way in a year. They were a big part of it. The whole Rockies organization, I can’t thank them enough for opening their doors to me last year when I certainly was an outsider. I’ll always be indebted to them.”
Manning said he even had a locker now occupied by Rockies right fielder Michael Cuddyer.

“I needed a place to work out during the lockout. I was here a couple of different times, and I was here continuously. I didn’t travel with them,” he joked. “Cuddyer’s using my locker. He didn’t ask my permission.”

Manning and Helton became friends at Tennessee. Manning overtook Helton as the Volunteers’ No. 1 quarterback and eventually was the overall top draft pick by the Colts. He took the Colts to the Super Bowl twice, winning once.
The four-time NFL MVP missed the entire 2011 season after his fourth neck surgery and was released by the team in early March. After a short courtship with several NFL teams, he signed a five-year deal with Denver last month.
Manning has been a frequent visitor to Coors Field over the years. He has hit a couple of home runs in batting practice and has fielded grounders at his old position of shortstop.

“Actually, every time I’ve been here with Todd, as much as I like taking BP, I actually enjoy taking groundballs,” he said. “I miss that about baseball more than anything.

“Eight, nine years ago the third base coach was hitting ground balls to me, by myself, and he was like, ‘Why am I hitting ground balls to Manning?’ I love everything about baseball. It’s such a different mentality than football, so many more games, a different atmosphere, I’ve always been a fan of it. Having a connection through Todd has made it very special for me,” he said.
Over the years, Manning also felt at ease in Denver.

“I’ve spent a lot of time here so I knew how great of a city it was and what a great sports town it was. Todd didn’t have to make a hard, hard sell, but it’s nice to have friends here like Todd, John Lynch and (Brandon) Stokely.”
Along with seeing Helton on Sunday, Manning also watched and filmed new Broncos teammate Eric Decker take some batting practice.

Manning also is friends with Mets pitcher R.A. Dickey, who took him into the New York clubhouse before the game. Third baseman David Wright greeted him wearing a sombrero and a fake mustache, and 6-foot-11 reliever Jon Rauch nearly put the quarterback on the shelf with his grip.

“It caught me off-guard,” Manning said. “Rauch almost broke my hand shaking hands with him.”

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Old 04-30-2012, 08:55 PM   #57
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Older, more vulnerable Manning... is JUST the kind of threat & challenge these young Chiefs need imo.

I know its hard to put a number on, to translate with fact in numbers & there is plenty of hope to mixed into my feeling, but there are now not 1 but 2 legit NT candidates ... you know it, i know it, the American people know it... i cant shake the Gut... that SAYS this defense will get scarier & scarier for teams as the season goes on.

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Old 04-30-2012, 08:56 PM   #58
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I think both Helton and Stokely (who lives in Castle Rock, CO just south of Denver) both had an enfluence on Manning coming to Denver. That being said, Manning was also considering the Titans and AZ. It's not like he wasn't considering other teams.
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butthurt? go back and read my posts about manning, prior to denver ever signing him. I've never liked the thought of a guy that is 36 years old, coming off his fourth major neck surgery, and having not played football in a year and a half coming to my team. Never. I thought paying anything more than an incentive laden deal, which he would do if it was all about winning, was worth the risk. Hindsight is 20/20, and now that I know what denver gave to get him, I'm laughing my ass off. There is no butthurt here. I'm glad you got rid of the one winner on your offense and AT LEAST 40 million (he'll be there for 2 years) in order to have an outside shot to win in the next two years. You still gotta beat the best in the AFC, which Manning could only do once when he was healthy, with a strong supporting cast, in a dome, when he was 4 years younger. Sorry, there is no butthurt, just the facts.
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