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Old 05-27-2012, 03:02 PM  
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Let's do the Pioli thing again.
I know there's a strong anti-Pioli current around here, and some people pretty much want the guy gone yesterday.

It's not because he's building a lopsided team on one side of the ball, like we've had since we hired Marty Schottenheimer.

It's not because he's drafted poorly. Even if you include 2009, he's been a top five drafting GM. I don't give a shit about Dexter McCluster. At least he gives you something -- I prefer that burnt 2nd round pick to Turk McBride and Bernard Pollard.

It's not because he can't acquire talent. Excepting 2009, we've had successful acquisitions with virtually no busts in free agency.

Coaching hires? Please. Haley and Crennel are pure talent-development coaches. Weis and Crennel were extraordinary hires as coordinators. Daboll isn't a great acquisition, but it's a good fit for the talent on this team.

It's not because he can't build a team. Few people deny that this team is as talented and as deep everywhere as all but something like five or six teams in the league (QB excepted), maybe fewer.

So why?

Because of the quarterback position? Pioli doesn't care about the QB position, right?

Riiiight.

It's not exactly a high bar to clear, but Quinn and Stanzi provide us the best QB depth this team has. We had the choice between Cassel and Sanchez, and made the right choice. We passed on Dalton -- few people could blame us for that, in hindsight a true mistake.

But we all know the Cassel yarn is unraveling. That's the point of my question -- what happens if we give Pioli 10 years?

Letting Orton slide, whiffing on Manning, all the frustration from fans and the media...

Cassel's got a year left, probably. He's got a max of what, three years left? At the absolute extreme?

What do you expect then? You think Pioli's just going to hop from one discarded backup to the next? To another stopgap option and hope to coast until he gets fired?

This is the best this team has been in a long time. Add a good QB to the mix, and this team is knocking on Super Bowl doors for a decade.

Why do you want to walk away from that?

Why do you want to gamble on god knows what the next GM might be like?

There's no chance the next GM is a better draft or a guy who's going to be far more likely to burn millions on free agents that don't pan out.

There's no chance the next GM puts a better balance on the field. And may not hire coaches who value development as much as Pioli does.

I'm a really big fan of Pioli.

I agree, he needs to pull his head out of his ass on QB. But he did the right thing, he picked his guy there and gave him every chance.

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Old 05-27-2012, 04:27 PM   #46
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Old 05-27-2012, 04:28 PM   #47
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You guys are ****ing cherry picking things instead of looking at overall results.

The Chiefs are 21-27 since Pioli took over. That's all that matters.
After inheriting a team that went 15-33 and had the WORST two year span in TEAM HISTORY.
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Old 05-27-2012, 04:29 PM   #48
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After inheriting a team that went 15-33 and had the WORST two year span in TEAM HISTORY.
After inheriting the 2008 draft class one of the best in Chiefs franchise history he did NOTHING with the 2009 draft nor free agency. His free agent signings have been overall failures.
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Old 05-27-2012, 04:30 PM   #49
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Hell, we have been rebuilding since 2006.
I'd say they've been rebuilding since 2001.
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Old 05-27-2012, 04:31 PM   #50
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I'd say they've been rebuilding since 2001.
2005 was the end of the unbalanced teams. After that, we got consistently bad on both sides of the ball.
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Old 05-27-2012, 04:35 PM   #51
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Old 05-27-2012, 04:40 PM   #52
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2005 was the end of the unbalanced teams. After that, we got consistently bad on both sides of the ball.
Thing is in 2004 that team had a chance to be real good but for whatever reason Carl thought it would be better to keep the same players on defense and hire Gunther Cunningham.
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Old 05-27-2012, 04:41 PM   #53
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absolute terrible business person, I think Carl Peterson was just as good if not better.
Carl was a great team president but horrible GM. He could handle the business side of things great but that was it. He was the king of mediocre.

Granted we are still less than mediocre but Pioli has been fine at everything sans HC and QB.

****. We really are screwed.
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Old 05-27-2012, 04:42 PM   #54
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In 2009, we struggled mightily in the first half, but in the 2nd half we played much better. We won 3 of the 8 games and lost by a TD or less in 3 of the 5 losses.

Since midseason of 2009 to now, we are an even 20-20, and that's with all the injuries we had last year.

I think you'll find that Daboll will be a very good OC for this team. His play selection confused teams last year and still worked with Matt Moore at QB.

If Daboll can get the most out of a lesser talented QB in Miami, along with Weis being within an hour to help Cassel (he was at OTA's btw), I think we'll see a Cassel similar to the 2010 form.

The OL will be the key to the season. Last year our OL sucked and Cassel got ran over. Getting Winston was huge and Hudson looks like he will become an above average C from what I saw last year. Cassel looked good in 2010 when the OL gave him time and our coaching staff knows that better than anyone.

This team has to win 10 games this year, which there is no reason why they shouldn't (unless we get plagued with injuries like last year). Pioli knows this team has to go to the playoffs this year at the minimum.
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Old 05-27-2012, 04:54 PM   #56
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Casell goes to the pro bowl this year and that'll be two times in three years. I think qb situation is fine, nice work Scott.
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Casell goes to the pro bowl this year and that'll be two times in three years. I think qb situation is fine, nice work Scott.
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Casell goes to the pro bowl this year and that'll be two times in three years. I think qb situation is fine, nice work Scott.
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