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Old 06-08-2012, 03:39 AM  
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Daboll: Matt Cassel is a winner
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...-new-chiefs-oc

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Matt Cassel has had an up-and-down three-season run with the Kansas City Chiefs, but new offensive coordinator Brian Daboll believes he inherited a winner at the quarterback position.

Cassel led the New England Patriots to an 11-5 record after Tom Brady wrecked his knee in Week 1 of the 2008 season. He later piloted the Chiefs to a 10-6 mark and an AFC West title in 2010. Cassel has never won a playoff game -- in fact, he played terribly against the Ravens in his only postseason start -- but Daboll sees a player who knows how to lead his team.


"He's been a winner," Daboll told reporters Thursday, according to ESPN.com. "He's had two 10-plus win seasons. I did a study just this offseason about 10-plus-win quarterbacks, which is what you're defined by, obviously. There's been nine of them in the last four years that have had two or more 10-plus win seasons in the regular season, and Matt is one of them.

"The other ones being Brady, (Drew) Brees, (Aaron) Rodgers, Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Eli (Manning), (Joe) Flacco, (Matt) Ryan, so he's been a winner. He works his tail off in the classroom. I think he's done a good job in these OTAs, and I'm looking forward to working with him."

Daboll finds a creative way to lump Cassel in with a group of the game's best quarterbacks, but he does leave out the big picture. Despite those 10-plus win seasons, Cassel is a pedestrian 28-26 in games he's started overall.

If you really are defined by your record, this seems about right.
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:33 AM   #46
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One turd polishing another. Nothing serious here. Honestly he was going to say great things about him, I can't imagine Daboll keeping his job long if he were to criticize Cassel to the media. That reflects poorly on the team as it would on any team. Actions speak louder than words though and we will see the kind of support Cassel has during training camp based on if there is any "serious" competition for the starting job or it is all just smoke and mirrors. Unless Stanzi comes on strong it is clear that by bringing in Quinn the Chiefs were never serious about challenging Cassel.
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:41 AM   #47
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28-26 is average. Average doesn't equate to a winner.
Average isn't the same league as Brees, Brady, Rogers, Manning, Roethlistberger, etc..

How about he has been on good teams? And he has had all the support in the world. How about he hasn't beaten a playoff team or teams with a winning record. Yeah he is some winner alright. **** you Chiefs. Seriously.
been on a good team? when, in NE?
Hasn't been on one since he has been in KC...and maybe he is the reason they haven't been good, but he isn't the only reason.
Since Cassel arrived, it has been a freak show carnival.
Offensive Coordinator revolving door -
Head case head coach
Worse D coordinator since Grob (got much better after Crennel got here)
2011 with all the play makers on the DL.

This year, Cassel is on a good team. Most if not all pieces to be successful are in place. All the excuses will be gone.
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:46 AM   #48
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Actions speak louder than words though
This.

And for all of the knowledgeable posters on this board who bash Pioli for "blindly believing in Matt Cassel", im surprised that no one bothers to mention the most obvious piece of evidence to the contrary.

Look at the way the Chiefs are running their offense. They're building a ground and pound team designed to keep the ball out of Cassel's hands.

That alone speaks volumes about what the Chiefs think of Matt Cassel.

Instead, everyone wants to be reactionary and bite into every piece of coach speak thrown out there.
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:51 AM   #49
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He's up there with the top guys, most people on here cant see it with there hater glasses on.

Its ok keep hatin haters, Ill be enjoying that 6 and 0 start son!
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:59 AM   #50
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He's up there with the top guys, most people on here cant see it with there hater glasses on.

Its ok keep hatin haters, Ill be enjoying that 6 and 0 start son!
you are going to be very disappointed and wrong.
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Old 06-08-2012, 10:04 AM   #51
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you are going to be very disappointed and wrong.
If we start out 6-0 and and Cassel looks like a stud are you going to be disappointed? Because most of the people on here would be, thats how deep theyre hatred of Matt "Pro-Bowl" Cassell is. I think most of the people here aren't even Chiefs fans actually.
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If we start out 6-0 and and Cassel looks like a stud are you going to be disappointed? Because most of the people on here would be, thats how deep theyre hatred of Matt "Pro-Bowl" Cassell is. I think most of the people here aren't even Chiefs fans actually.
no, no! i would be very happy for chiefs fans and hey, i would come back to you and give credit. i just don't see this happening.

i don't hate cassel. i just can't stand watching him play football. his mechanics are the worst of any QB i've ever seen at the NFL level and i've been watching the NFL since the sixties.
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Old 06-08-2012, 10:14 AM   #54
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no, no! i would be very happy for chiefs fans and hey, i would come back to you and give credit. i just don't see this happening.

i don't hate cassel. i just can't stand watching him play football. his mechanics are the worst of any QB i've ever seen at the NFL level and i've been watching the NFL since the sixties.
it went pretty much unnoticed on here but cassel has been working with the esteemed tom house this offseason on mechanics. one less thing to gripe about!
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If we start out 6-0 and and Cassel looks like a stud are you going to be disappointed? Because most of the people on here would be, thats how deep theyre hatred of Matt "Pro-Bowl" Cassell is. I think most of the people here aren't even Chiefs fans actually.
We can go 13-3 win the division but lose in the playoffs I will still hate the Casshole & his mom too.
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We can go 13-3 win the division but lose in the playoffs I will still hate the Casshole & his mom too.
and then youll bust out your patriots gear at that point right dude
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The fact that some of you take this at face value is absolutely hilarious.
daboll is a smart guy and he knows cassel is our man
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and then youll bust out your patriots gear at that point right dude
shhhya riiiiight.

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