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View Poll Results: Pick the QB you would want from each matchup.
Game 1 (Don't click this.) 2 2.13%
Troy Aikman 40 42.55%
Len Dawson 49 52.13%
Game 2 (Don't click this.) 2 2.13%
Joe Montana 88 93.62%
Kurt Warner 5 5.32%
Game 3 (Don't click this.) 2 2.13%
Brett Favre 48 51.06%
John Elway 42 44.68%
Game 4 (Don't click this.) 3 3.19%
Tom Brady 73 77.66%
Peyton Manning 16 17.02%
I still think Unitas got screwed. 9 9.57%
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:33 AM   #1
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:36 AM   #2
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Joe Montana
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John Elway
Drew Brees
Johnny Unitas

that's probably your top 5 all time right there
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:49 AM   #3
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Alright people, here it is. Knock it off already:

Even when Elway had the same "stacked team" and won, he still played like shit.

Read every word of this article and tell me Elway is better with a straight face:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...te-of-all-time

But for a quarterback it's all about one game: the Super Bowl. And obviously Elway was a stud in the big game, right? Well, let's compare Super Bowl stats between the two.

Elway: five games, 152 attempts, 76 completions, 50% completion, 1,128 yards, three touchdowns, eight interceptions, a 59.3 quarterback rating and two Super Bowl victories.
Montana: four games, 122 attempts, 83 completions, 68% completion, 1,142 yards, 11 touchdowns, zero interceptions, a 127.8 quarterback rating and four Super Bowl victories.

I could not believe it when I calculated those stats. Aside from his last game, Elway wasn't just bad in the Super Bowl, he was god-awful. Montana was just as great as Elway was awful—he shined the brightest in the big game. Montana had more touchdown passes (five) in his last Super Bowl then Elway did in all five of his. Montana never threw a pick in the Super Bowl, while Elway threw at least one in every game. Montana's completion percentage in 18 percent higher and his quarterback rating more than doubles Elway's.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:54 AM   #4
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:57 AM   #5
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I will contend that if you take those SB head to heads of Montana v Elway that the talent levels between the teams were so great that if they swapped, you'd get the same result. 49ers win.

It is widely accepted that Jerry Rice is the greatest football player ever. Not just at his position. Ever. Honestly you have to factor this in.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:59 AM   #6
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I will contend that if you take those SB head to heads of Montana v Elway that the talent levels between the teams were so great that if they swapped, you'd get the same result. 49ers win.

It is widely accepted that Jerry Rice is the greatest football player ever. Not just at his position. Ever. Honestly you have to factor this in.
Read every word of that article I posted and tell me you would still take Elway. Even when he had the talent of the 9ers teams he played like shit.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:42 AM   #7
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Read every word of that article I posted and tell me you would still take Elway. Even when he had the talent of the 9ers teams he played like shit.
The problem is you've focused completely on the Super Bowl.

Nowhere in the original premise does Rain Man say we should limit our opinion to just Super Bowl performances.
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:12 PM   #8
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Farve over Elway? O.o

only on a Chiefs ... or Packers forum would this happen.
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:13 PM   #9
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Farve over Elway? O.o

only on a Chiefs ... or Packers forum would this happen.
I bet a Colts forum would do it pretty easily, too. Elway was a colossal bust for that team. It wasn't until his second team that he even got a starting position.
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I bet a Colts forum would do it pretty easily, too. Elway was a colossal bust for that team. It wasn't until his second team that he even got a starting position.
Ha! Good point!
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Elway's good, but not even top 5. Staubach, another scramble to pass QB, had better stats in a less QB friendly era. Staubach had as many rings. Nobody argues that Roger Staubach is GOAT.

John Elway was never first team all-pro. He wasn't the best QB of his era.

Elway wouldn't have had as many comebacks if he didn't suck so bad for three quarters of the game.

People who think John Elway is the GOAT are just confused about being Marty bit.
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Elway's good, but not even top 5. Staubach, another scramble to pass QB, had better stats in a less QB friendly era. Staubach had as many rings. Nobody argues that Roger Staubach is GOAT.

John Elway was never first team all-pro. He wasn't the best QB of his era.

Elway wouldn't have had as many comebacks if he didn't suck so bad for three quarters of the game.

People who think John Elway is the GOAT are just confused about being Marty bit.
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