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Old 12-11-2012, 10:06 AM  
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This was posted in another thread by Milkman, but it got overlooked so I'm making a thread out of it.

I know, another QB thread. But this needs to be put out there for some of the "posters" here to see and think about.

The top three in this years class are in no particular order:

Geno Smith
Tyler Wilson
Matt Barkley

Thats not counting Bray, Glennon, Nassib, etc. Who are all talented in their own right.

So, many posters here want to say, "no not this year, this class is awful don't take one, there isn't a Luck or RGIII in the bunch", which isn't necessarily false.

No there isn't a once in a decade guy. Which is probably what Luck was. Hell even more there have been 2 guys of his stature come out in the last 20 or so years. Luck and Manning.

Yet there are franchise QB's all over the league. How is that so you may ask?

Lets take a look at the last 5 QB classes top 3 guys to come out and get drafted, taking out 2012's class.

2007
Jamarcus Russel
Brady Quinn
Kevin Kolb

2008
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
Brian Brohm

2009
Matt Stafford
Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman

2010
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Jimmy Clausen

2011
Cam Newton
Blaine Gabbert
Jake Locker

Look at those classes and no, you have to evaluate them at the time they were picked, not what they are now, we don't know what this years class will be in the NFL.

I'd argue that this years class is more loaded than any of those classes at the top and from top to bottom.

So, you wanna argue that this isn't a year to take a QB? I'll argue that its a great year to take a QB.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:51 AM   #46
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All we have to do is go through another year like this one and we can draft Johnny Manziel!
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:51 AM   #47
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I don't think this QB class is all that bad either.

I'll take a 6'3" QB that completed 70% of his passes for 4000 yards and threw 40 TDs and 6 INTs. I don't really understand what's to debate. Geno blows away J. Russell when you look at the stats. I think the difference is that Russell came out of LSU and Geno plays for WV. Geno is basically all his team has, while JR played on a team loaded with talent on both sides of the ball.

I'll be thrilled when the Chiefs draft Geno Smith. The Chiefs also need to do everything they can to resign Albert and Bowe. If that happens Smith would be landing in an awesome situation from the get-go. I doubt there has been any other #1 draft pick that would have landed in such a good situation.
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This is one reason I think the KC job might actually be pretty enticing to bigger names.


You have the first overall pick, likely. So you can get your QB

LT is in place, potentially two top notch pass rushers are in place, and a franchise WR can still be in place.

You have your building blocks. Which makes it all the more frustrating to what Pioli has done.

He's put an absolutely awful coaching staff in place to develop the guys he's actually drafted/brought in.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:56 AM   #50
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IF you come in my thread and say you want a TED backer at #1 overall, you can go Belcher yourself.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:57 AM   #51
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Kiper losing his mind. Pimping mike Glennon and Logan Thomas as top QBs in the draft
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If Petrino stays out of trouble and WVU's defense is even respectable this year, Geno and Wilson are being pimped pretty hard right now.


Hell if WVU's d held against TCU and OU, Geno is the consensus #1.
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Kiper losing his mind. Pimping mike Glennon and Logan Thomas as top QBs in the draft
If you read the scouting message boards, lots of people like Glennon a lot. He's got everything you want really except consistency.

Logan Thomas? People see his physical stature and confuse him with Cam Newton. He doesn't have NEAR the arm.
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I'll be honest. I haven't seen enough of Glennon to form a legit opinion. Seems like only 1 dude here like him.
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I wish we could "bank" this pick for a year, pickup the last pick of the first round, then have the #1 overall for the following draft, plus whatever draft pick we have after the 2013 season.
So we can select.... whom?

If you think this QB is terrible, then 2014's will be the worst piece of shit you've ever seen.
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This is one reason I think the KC job might actually be pretty enticing to bigger names.


You have the first overall pick, likely. So you can get your QB

LT is in place, potentially two top notch pass rushers are in place, and a franchise WR can still be in place.

You have your building blocks. Which makes it all the more frustrating to what Pioli has done.

He's put an absolutely awful coaching staff in place to develop the guys he's actually drafted/brought in.
Truly stated, Mr. o.city ... with one minor correction ... Pioli hasn't actually drafted/brought in those building blocks you mentioned (LT, 2 top-notch pass rushers, franchise WR). With the exception of Houston and the janitor, he hasn't drafted/brought in a franchise anything.

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I'll be honest. I haven't seen enough of Glennon to form a legit opinion. Seems like only 1 dude here like him.
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