AV Receiver

[epitome1170]

I am looking into upgrading my current speaker setup for my TV as I am less than happy with it right now.

Currently, I have an "all-in-one" 5.1 system with Blu-Ray system that I bought 4-5 years ago. I want to upgrade this, but to something that will last longer and be a more permanent fixture of my entertainment system with upgrading the other features as necessary.

Primary uses of my system is the typical: DirecTV, BluRay (need a new one), FM/AM, PS3, 5.1 System, Streaming Media, MP3 playback.

So first question, do I need an AV receiver for this? Or can I get away with a compact integrated amplifier?

Secondly, if I should get an AV receiver, which should I get or should I stay away from?

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by Silock

I'm selling a pair of Klipsch KLF-20s. I already have one pair and had plans to use this pair also, but plans changed. Now, they're just sitting unused. Waste of a great pair of speakers. They have a few nicks and scratches here and there, but they're in fantastic condition and the drivers are flawless. Upgraded Crites crossovers and polyfill.

$500

Specs:

FREQUENCY RESPONSE:34Hz-20kHz(+-)3dB
SENSITIVITY:100dB @ 1watt/1meter
POWER HANDLING:200 watts maximum continuous (800 watts peak)
NOMINAL IMPEDANCE:8 ohms
TWEETER:K-79-K 1" (2.54cm) Polymer diaphragm compression driver
HIGH FREQUENCY HORN:90(o)x40(o) Exponential Horn
MIDRANGE:K-52 1.5" (3.81cm) Polymer diaphragm compression driver
MID FREQUENCY HORN:90(o)x60(o) Tractrix(r) Horn
WOOFER:Two K-1036-K 10" (25.4cm) Poly Carbon Graphite cones

http://www.klipsch.com/klf-20/details#specs

No rattle?

Seen posts around about the 20s starting to rattle and people offloading them at some point. Long term unknown flaw of a Big batch that were made at some point...

Honestly, I wouldn't suspect thatd be what you were up to. Only problem is not sinking more $$$ in getting them to me in Chicago safe and sound.

[Silock]

Nope. No rattle on either pair. Never even heard of this issue until you just mentioned it. I could see why it would rattle if the internal bracing came unglued, though. There's a ton of it in there.

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by Silock

Nope. No rattle on either pair. Never even heard of this issue until you just mentioned it. I could see why it would rattle if the internal bracing came unglued, though. There's a ton of it in there.

You'd know the internals better than me, just something of a topic I came across a number of times. Ya know they made that model for a ton of years.

Defective glue or epoxy, some moisture exposure along the production and they could have ended up with a quarter or half a year's worth of units or who knows maybe more that isn't maintaining structural integrity (?)

When'd you get them / their production year?

How much they weigh? I wish I could figure out a solution to cheaply get them up here, but nothing off the top of my head yet.

[Silock]

They're really heavy. Probably 85 lbs each.

I bought them about 3 years ago from someone on audiogon. They were shipped to me for $100, freight rate, I believe. I still have the boxes and packing from that.

Unfortunately, I think the cheapest way to get them would be to drive down and get them and drive back up. That sucks, though.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

Definitely a bright speaker guy. Your take on Klipsch is spot on me- I LOVE listening to anything on my X10's throughout the day. While I have a few pairs of top notch cans and appreciate their presentation, the buds have always been my preferred solo source.

I'll give all the rest you mention above a thorough checking out- except maybe been the heavy lean bass. It's never been a draw for my audio enhancement or enjoyment.

Sorry about not being more clear, though they do have a speaker line, SVS's strength is their subwoofers.

They were the garage startup that ran with the sonotube subwoofer innovation of the mid-90s. They now offer both traditional box subs and sonosubs.

A DIY example, woofer on the bottom, port usually on top



SVS early model

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

Alright, looking for anyone's feedback / history with B&W's.

Obviously their reputation is top notch, but times change and opinions are welcome.

I want to get away from the bulky towers at least if I'm gonna get some new ones at this time.

That looks a lot like what M&K came out with in the mid/late 90's. Some ****ing amazing speakers that were out of my price range at the time.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

If you have the money to move from B&W to Dynaudio, I'd do that, even at the entry level.

High end B&W is quality shit, but is priced on par with low end Dynaudio. I was never less impressed than I was with entry level B&W.

Trivia - dynaudio designed and installed the speaker system in the Buggati Veyron.

comparable to what you posted above

http://www.dynaudio.com/int/home_lou...ite/excite.php

These are in the 1400-166 price range as well, and their 'mass market' sets run up to $3.6K

They also run up to the $85K Evidence Platinums



I'd say you get more bang for your buck with Paradigm at the mid point of speaker pricing.

OTOH

If you like bright speakers, Klipschhorns are a great economical route.

If you like smooth even speakers, Martin Logan Electrostatics are a great choice.

One thing is clear, if you want quality [almost unsurpassed] bass at a good price, SVS is the only choice.

Listen to this man^^^
Id eccho everything above accept SVS since the 2 owners split I think have gone down some.
The new king in subwoofers at the old SVS pricepoint is Power Sound Audio. Founded by the former SVS owner.