Texans Looking Towards Johnnie Football At #1

[SeeingRed]

According to John McClain long time Texans beat writer and writer for the Houston Chronical projects Manziel will go #1


http://www.hngn.com/articles/28284/2...ing-update.htm

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Cochise

Fisher would have been fine as a mid to late 1st round pick. Manziel probably should be late 1st/early 2nd

Like every QB not named Luck. Too risky.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Like every QB not named Luck. Too risky.

Actually, a 5'11 QB at 1.1 is a huge risk.

Preemptive post: Brees - 2.33/Wilson - 3.75

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Like every QB not named Luck. Too risky.

My impression runs more along the lines of being a 6'1 sophomore 2-year starting spread-running close-your-eyes-and-chuck-it-up-in-the-general-direction-of-Mike Evans kind of quarterback.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

My impression runs more along the lines of being a 6'1 sophomore 2-year starting spread-running close-your-eyes-and-chuck-it-up-in-the-general-direction-of-Mike Evans kind of quarterback.

He's smaller than 6'1". Legit question mark.

2-year starter. Legit question mark.

Spread offense. Legit question mark.

The rest of your post indicates to me you didn't watch him play a whole lot.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by BCD

Actually, a 5'11 QB at 1.1 is a huge risk.

Yes, yes it is.

People can find something wrong with just about every QB that comes out. At some point, you have to take some risks if you want the payoff.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The rest of your post indicates to me you didn't watch him play a whole lot.

Probably 8 games last year. Just a guess.

Either way, you're saying you only have issue with 25% of what I said.

Heck, I left character and maturity out of it.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Like every QB not named Luck. Too risky.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Probably 8 games last year. Just a guess.

Either way, you're saying you only have issue with 25% of what I said.

Heck, I left character and maturity out of it.

I also left improvisational skills and intangibles out of it.

The guy has moxie oozing out of every pore. That's something worth considering.

For all of his physical limitations, Tim Tebow won a playoff game after all. Manziel has Tebow's spirit but can actually, you know, throw the ball.

[BullJunkandIron]

Originally Posted by Bowser

New coaching staff + new QB = new direction for Houston. Plus it will be a fan favorite move to bring in money and put butts in the seats, so I get why they would consider it. But Clowney next to Watt would wreck shit every week, something to be considered, especially since they have to go against the new golden boy in Andrew Luck twice a year.

Houston has sold out every home game since they returned. The waiting list for psl's is over 20k. Putting butts in the seats is the least of Houston's worries.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Armadillo Skin

Houston has sold out every home game since they returned. The waiting list for psl's is over 20k. Putting butts in the seats is the least of Houston's worries.

There's more to it than just ticket sales. There's merchandising, advertising, etc. etc.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I also left improvisational skills and intangibles out of it.

The guy has moxie oozing out of every pore. That's something worth considering.

For all of his physical limitations, Tim Tebow won a playoff game after all. Manziel has Tebow's spirit but can actually, you know, throw the ball.

I've called him Johnny Tebow a few times.

'course that's not a complement: I laughed at the Broncos for drafting Tebow in the first round. Manziel's sort of like the right handed, not holy-rolling yet somehow equally douchebaggy midget version of him.

Although I think the better comparison might be a bit slower, SPCA-friendly, right-handed version of Michael Vick.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I've called him Johnny Tebow a few times.

'course that's not a complement: I laughed at the Broncos for drafting Tebow in the first round. Manziel's sort of like the right handed, not holy-rolling yet somehow equally douchebaggy midget version of him.

Although I think the better comparison might be a bit slower, SPCA-friendly, right-handed version of Michael Vick.

Manziel is a better passer than Vick ever was. He's got touch, something Vick never mastered.

Look, I'm not saying I'd take Manziel #1 overall in an ideal world. But the idea that he's a 2nd round pick is just ****ing ridiculously laughable.

He's better than Gabbert, Ponder, and Locker all put together...

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

How about this ...


if Fisher turns out to be a better pro than Manziel, you post a selfie on CP right before you shoot yourself in the head with a shotgun.



sound like a plan?

epic.

[keg in kc]

I never said anything about the second round. Well, I did with Tebow, but Johnny Douchebag's better than Tebow.

He's in about the same range Sanchez was for me five years ago. I might consider it with a mid-first pick, somewhere in the late teens to the twenties. I think he's worth that sort of gamble. I just wouldn't go 1 overall with him.

And you know me, it's not a general positional thing. I look at guys individually. I think there's enough red flags with him that it makes me wary. If he plays another year, if he shows he's done some growing up (both on and off the field) and if his production doesn't decline significantly, he goes higher on my board. But a Sophomore coming out...not something I really want to touch with a blue-chip pick.

'course the Texans are in a unique shituation.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I never said anything about the second round. Well, I did with Tebow, but Johnny Douchebag's better than Tebow.

I know you didn't. I wasn't talking specifically about you.