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Old 10-10-2016, 08:00 PM  
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Sac's 2017 Chief's Mock Draft

While I've been heartened by the offense's desire to effectively get Conley and Hill involved, the lack of depth on the defense is nothing if not glaring, especially at the LB and CB positions. It appears that the Chiefs should have four compensatory draft picks for losing Sean Smith, Chase Daniel, Tyvon Branch and Don Stephenson. 3, 4, 6, 6 round picks for those players have been forecasted based on salary. They do lose their regular 6th round pick because of the Maclin tampering decision by the NFL.

Unlike previous years, compensatory picks for the 2017 draft can be traded, but until that happens, I'll stick with the picks as they should be in this mock.

As such, here my mock:

1. Christian McCaffery, RB, Stanford: 6'2", 205 lb.

I don't want to hear the "we already have DeAnthony Thomas and Albert Wilson bullshit. Neither are factors in the offense or special teams. Thomas is a pipe dream and they still keep trying to put him on the field. Wilson continues to alligator arm every pass thrown in his direction.

They (Reid/Dorsey) obviously want this type of guy on the field, but as of right now, Tyreek Hill is the only one working out and he's not a true RB. McCaffery is and has operated out of Stanford's pro style offense.

And there can be no argument. He was, without question, the best college football player in 2015. The guy is an impact on the game and can literally bust open a game any time the ball is in his hands. Can just flat out play football versus just being an exciting gadget player. And with Charles future in serious question, the Chiefs do not have the explosion that Charles provided on the offensive side of the ball.

The only other guy I would consider here would be USC's CB Adoree Jackson, for the same reasons - can play multiple positions on the field, is successful doing all of them and does play a position that is needed on the Chiefs - a solid cover corner opposite Peters, but I'm not sure that Jackson fits the Dorsey matrix for that specific position, so, as such, the pick is McCaffery.






2. Lowell Lotulelei, DT; Utah: 6'3", 310 lb.

- The best true NT in this draft. Lotulelei is near impossible to move off his spot and demands a double team. Strong like reerun bull and when his hands are on the ball carrier it's over. As the NFL shifts back to a more run oriented look, a DT/NT that is effective against the run is a necessity and this is where Lotulelei excels. He won't fit the Dorsey matrix such as Chris Jones does, but there is nobody better at taking on and controlling the gap on the defensive front in this draft than Lowell and with Poe's back a forseeable question mark, the position has to be addressed.






3. Chidobe Awuzie, CB; Colorado; 6'0", 190 lb.

- Very good in man coverage and is very effective against the run in addition to being an absolute beast making impact plays behind the line of scrimmage. Go watch the CU-CSU game and the CU Utah gamesfrom this season. Awuzie is a legit NFL level player. When a guy can take over a game from the CB spot, that dude can flat out play football and Awuzie can. Reminds me of current Minnesota Vikings CB Xavier Rhodes. Can be a shut down coverage corner, can play the press extremely well and is just absolutely fierce when he gets to the ball. I think he'd be balls in a Sutton defense.






3. Cooper Kupp, WR; Eastern Washington; 6'2", 210 lb.

- You most likely have never heard of this guy, but he's the best true receiver in the 2017 Draft. Single handedly destroyed Oregon in their 2016 matchup. Thickly muscled, with hands like glue. Never stops working to be the best player on the field. Father and grandfather both played in the NFL. Always extends for the catch, uses his hands away from the body with great control. Very good running after the catch. Great routes. Student of the game. IMO - this is the prototype receiver for Reid's offensive system.







4. Hunter Dimnick, DE; Utah: 6'3", 272 lb.

- One of if not the best pass rusher in college football in 2016. Also one of the strongest players in college football (bench presses 450 lb., and has the Utah school record of 43 reps at 225 lb. Tireless, plays to the whistle and is too much for most OTs. Has been double and tripled teamed all season and still leads the PAC 12 and nation in solo sacks with 14 in 2016. School record holder in sacks, TFL, tfl yardage. You watch Dimnick and you see Tamba Hali at the same stage. Fierce, sttrong, relentless and has an excellent first step. Uses numerous pass rush moves. Dimnick is ready to play in the NFL right now.





4. Kai Nacua, S; BYU; 6'2", 210 lb.

- Perhaps the best ball hawk in the entire 2017 Draft as he is currently tied for the lead in interceptions in the FBS division. School record holder for ints. Plays tough as nails and has superb field awareness. Finalist for the 2016 Jim Thorpe award. Also lettered in Volleyball and basketball. Guy is an athlete. The Cougars best player and is a game changer.







5. Jon "Flounder" Heck, OT; North Carolina: 6'6", 300 lb.

- Legacy! Son of current KC Chiefs OL coach Andy Heck. Reliable and experienced - 42 career starts (and going) at right tackle for the Tarheels. Good in pass protection along with run blocking.





6. Greg Pyke, OG; Georgia, 6'6", 326 lb.

- Former HS lacrosse star that overgrew that sport. Has played at RG and RT and fits the Chiefs profile for the offensive line. Massive, but athletic with quick feet and good power. Had an apendecomy this past summer so has had a slow start to the 2016 season. Has an enormous ceiling.

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watching tape of Pyke absolutely made my day! In fairness, I don't live the most exciting life anymore, but when I see a guard mash his opponents with pure power, good footwork and timing on combination blocks -- that makes me happy. Pyke uses quick, choppy steps to get himself in position and then plays with a strong base to lock defenders out. And he loves to scrap on every snap.


7. Azeem Victor, ILB; Washington: 6'3", 240 lb.

- If not for a broken leg suffered against USC Victor should be an easy 3 rd round selection. (Maybe even 2 nd round). He's a difference maker on the field for the Huskies and has a great feel for the game. Excellent in coverage, plays the run strong, and has good field awareness. He's going to need time to rehab the leg, but this is an easy use of a late round pick. Fits the Dorsey metrics for the position and if he fully rehabs this is a total steal.




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Old 12-21-2016, 01:07 AM   #46
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I can't imagine prioritizing McCaffery when your starting QB's ability is starting to erode and you really don't have a good option behind him (Foles will be gone).

I actually like what I see from Mitchell and want to see more of his ability before deciding to go Corner. If it looks like he just might stick, I'd take a pass on a corner. That slot should be where the Chiefs choose a RB.

Far too many really good RB's in this draft class to feel pressured to take one on Thursday, unless you're gonna land Fournette.
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Old 12-21-2016, 04:59 PM   #47
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I agree with Busby about the depth of RBs and not taking one in round 1.

I think Tankersley fits the Dorsey CB mold better than Jackson.
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Old 12-21-2016, 05:38 PM   #48
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I would hate McCaffrey in round 1. Sorry but we have Tyreek Hill. I would rather draft a big sonofabitch like James Conner who has nice athleticism and can run over people.
I'm also not ready to draft a CB rd 1 either with Terrance Mitchell playing outstanding ball against good QB's.

If we sign Poe and Berry like I think we will, I want us to us ammo to move up for a QB. Something like both of our 3rd's, a 5th and a 2nd next year if the QB is someone they believe in.
Aside from that, I want one of the TE's from this elite class so I don't ever have to watch Demetrius Harris miss blocks and drop passes
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Old 12-22-2016, 11:31 AM   #49
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If for some reason cook felt to the chiefs, even being a rb, I'd take him. Dudes gonna be awesome.

I'd actually look into trading up for an ilb or qb early
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Old 12-22-2016, 01:47 PM   #50
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I would hate McCaffrey in round 1. Sorry but we have Tyreek Hill. I would rather draft a big sonofabitch like James Conner who has nice athleticism and can run over people.
I'm also not ready to draft a CB rd 1 either with Terrance Mitchell playing outstanding ball against good QB's.

If we sign Poe and Berry like I think we will, I want us to us ammo to move up for a QB. Something like both of our 3rd's, a 5th and a 2nd next year if the QB is someone they believe in.
Aside from that, I want one of the TE's from this elite class so I don't ever have to watch Demetrius Harris miss blocks and drop passes
Agree on the TE/Harris situation. But that's nearly a DAT situation. They keep trying to put them on the field but I think that there is better options in this draft (McCaffery or John Ross vs. DAT) and there are a ton of really outstanding tE's in this draft.
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Old 12-22-2016, 02:51 PM   #51
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Sacc, why would you take an RB in round 1?
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Old 12-22-2016, 06:45 PM   #52
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Sacc, why would you take an RB in round 1?
BPA And McCaffery fits the Dorsey profile.

Charles run is basically over. And neither DAT or Wilson is filling the void and neither is West. But they keep trying to get those three guys into the offense no matter how ineffective they have been. McCafferey is a better option than any of those guys.

McCaffery can literally change a game with the ball in his hands. He's an excellent football player and is a dynamic force.

You could make an argument for a tight end like Alabama's OJ Howard or Michigan's Jake Butt, or a CB but I think Awuzie is a better corner than the guys that the pundits are putting in the late first round like Tankersley or LSU's Tredavious White. Other than that, it's an offensive tackle or a 34 rush end. (UCLA's McKinnley had a nice season, but Utah's Hunter Dimnick was substantially better in the same conference and could be had a round or two later. There isn't a QB in this draft other than Kizer that fits this system that's worth a shit and Kizer will be long gone.

McCafferey can litterally flip a game in a single play and now that Charles is out, they don't have anyone at the RB spot that can do that (but they seem to want to have one).

We all seee how Hill has an impact on a game and McCafferey offers that same type of impact.

That's why.
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Old 12-22-2016, 06:59 PM   #53
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Three potential draftees played extremely well yesterday in the Poinsetta Bowl as BYU defeated Wyoming 24-21.

ILB Linebacker Harvey Langi, who moved back to ILB for this game after starting the 2016 season at DE and finishing the season at RB (where he was an HS All American and originally recruited to play at Utah, was named Defensive MVP.

Cougar RB Jamaal Williams was named Offensive MVP and finished as school record holder in rushing yards.

Also S Kai Nacua sealed the victory with an interception.
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BPA And McCaffery fits the Dorsey profile.

Charles run is basically over. And neither DAT or Wilson is filling the void and neither is West. But they keep trying to get those three guys into the offense no matter how ineffective they have been. McCafferey is a better option than any of those guys.

McCaffery can literally change a game with the ball in his hands. He's an excellent football player and is a dynamic force.

You could make an argument for a tight end like Alabama's OJ Howard or Michigan's Jake Butt, or a CB but I think Awuzie is a better corner than the guys that the pundits are putting in the late first round like Tankersley or LSU's Tredavious White. Other than that, it's an offensive tackle or a 34 rush end. (UCLA's McKinnley had a nice season, but Utah's Hunter Dimnick was substantially better in the same conference and could be had a round or two later. There isn't a QB in this draft other than Kizer that fits this system that's worth a shit and Kizer will be long gone.

McCafferey can litterally flip a game in a single play and now that Charles is out, they don't have anyone at the RB spot that can do that (but they seem to want to have one).

We all seee how Hill has an impact on a game and McCafferey offers that same type of impact.

That's why.
Fair enough. Impact player who fits the system. Does he have any other abilities that could translate to special teams work? What kind of hands does he have? You know how Reid loves to dump those goddamned screens.
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Three potential draftees played extremely well yesterday in the Poinsetta Bowl as BYU defeated Wyoming 24-21.

ILB Linebacker Harvey Langi, who moved back to ILB for this game after starting the 2016 season at DE and finishing the season at RB (where he was an HS All American and originally recruited to play at Utah, was named Defensive MVP.

Cougar RB Jamaal Williams was named Offensive MVP and finished as school record holder in rushing yards.

Also S Kai Nacua sealed the victory with an interception.
I don't see Dorsey going in to panic-mode about DJ and trying to take an ILB high. It doesn't fit his method. Thoughts?
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Old 12-23-2016, 08:11 PM   #56
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It's not about going into panic mode. DJ is in his mid 30's and was going to need to be replaced even if his Achilles didn't shread like Mozzarella. The ILB position right now is easily the weakest spot on the team.

They're going to fist ****ed to open 2017 if they don't address it. DJ won't be ready Week 1.

As for McCaffery, I'm wary over the fact that Stanford used the piss out of him and being and not having enough topend speed to get away from NFL Defenders. It also seems silly to drop a top pick on a back when Andy hates running the ball.

There will be better value where the Chiefs will actually end up drafting (earlier 20s because they gonna be one and done).
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It's not about going into panic mode. DJ is in his mid 30's and was going to need to be replaced even if his Achilles didn't shread like Mozzarella. The ILB position right now is easily the weakest spot on the team.

They're going to fist ****ed to open 2017 if they don't address it. DJ won't be ready Week 1.

As for McCaffery, I'm wary over the fact that Stanford used the piss out of him and being and not having enough topend speed to get away from NFL Defenders. It also seems silly to drop a top pick on a back when Andy hates running the ball.

There will be better value where the Chiefs will actually end up drafting (earlier 20s because they gonna be one and done).
Seems to me they should have been looking at this issue prior to the 2016 season. Why would you put yourself in a position where you may or may not have to accept less talent than you want because of poor planning?

And Andy would be wise to stop hating on running the ball. His "Air Smith" system has turned in to pure shit so unless he plans on replacing the signal-caller right quick, I'd be looking at some options for increasing my backfield productivity.
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Old 12-23-2016, 10:38 PM   #58
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Andy has always been a coach that wants to throw his running lanes open. The thing isn't Andy needs a first round RB, its they need to find a QB that doesn't suck.

Spending the top pick on Danny Woodhead Jr isn't the best choice. They need to find a new QB.
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Andy has always been a coach that wants to throw his running lanes open. The thing isn't Andy needs a first round RB, its they need to find a QB that doesn't suck.

Spending the top pick on Danny Woodhead Jr isn't the best choice. They need to find a new QB.
Well if he wants a QB that doesn't suck, he's not going to find that item dumpster-diving in round 5.
Aw shucks, maybe they can just sign another "proven vet" that doesn't suck!

That'd be great.
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Well guess they'll have to spend some real currency on a QB. I don't agree with sacc that there's only one QB in this draft that fits what Andy is looking for.

I think there are multiple QB's.
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