Royals Kansas City begins talk and studies for downtown ballpark - Page 4

Titty Meat · 10-04-2017, 04:51 PM

http://www.kansascity.com/news/polit...177058541.html

The city of Kansas City is funding a study of at least four potential sites for a downtown baseball stadium for the Kansas City Royals, according to documents obtained by The Star.

A series of emails shows that Kansas City Manager Troy Schulte was involved in funding studies of four sites within the downtown loop that might be suitable for a baseball stadium.

Two of those sites, according to slides prepared by architecture firm HOK, are immediately adjacent to the Sprint Center, one to the north and one to the east.

Another site is East Village, several blocks of mostly undeveloped land and surface parking lots east of City Hall. A fourth site would involve several blocks of mostly surface parking lots beginning at the northwest corner of 8th and Main streets.

Others involved in the planning include Jon Copaken, principal with real estate development firm Copaken-Brooks, the Downtown Council of Kansas City, JE Dunn, The Cordish Co. and Tower Properties.

Schulte said the studies started after the Downtown Council approached City Hall about the feasibility of downtown baseball. Schulte added that he agreed to help fund a study to consider whether the four sites would work so that the city could plan ahead if the idea gained momentum.

“At this point it’s nothing more than hopes and dreams and discussions,” Schulte said.

A May 12 email from Copaken obtained by The Star suggested that conversations with the Royals and Jackson County have started.

“[T]he studies are underway, invoices are out, conversations from the County and the team are actually heading in the right way and we are sufficiently in the loop to know that real progress is being achieved,” Copaken wrote.

Kevin Uhlich, senior vice president of business operations for the Royals, said he had been contacted about downtown baseball stadium proposals earlier this year.

**LoneWolf** · 10-04-2017, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

It is, if you know the 80/20 rule (Pareto principle). 80% of Royals attendance can be expected to come from 20% of their base - the "heavy users"

I don't have to tell you where they reside.

I know the Pareto principle you dipshit. KC is a different type of market. The city is spread out and really the vast majority of fans would have to drive to a downtown stadium. Unless you’re going to use light rail or busses to bring people from the likes of Overland Park, Olathe, Lee’s Summit, etc... to the ballpark and back home. Most of the population of KC lives outside of the downtown area.

gonefishin53 · 10-04-2017, 06:50 PM

Downtown businesses must be doing really well if they're going to pay for a brand new stadium in downtown K.C. /s

BWillie · 10-04-2017, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Downtown to put it simply is a shithole. The Royals won’t change that. Sprint Center was built on the cheap. Made downtown worse.

Really? Downtown has really came alive starting about a decade ago. I think it's a fantastic place. I'd love to live down there.

Demonpenz · 10-04-2017, 07:07 PM

I would love it. You could go hit some bars before the game and after it without having to drive.

Valiant · 10-04-2017, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

I know the Pareto principle you dipshit. KC is a different type of market. The city is spread out and really the vast majority of fans would have to drive to a downtown stadium. Unless you’re going to use light rail or busses to bring people from the likes of Overland Park, Olathe, Lee’s Summit, etc... to the ballpark and back home. Most of the population of KC lives outside of the downtown area.

Agreed. Build the area up around the stadiums. Not vice versa.

BWillie · 10-04-2017, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Sprint Center is easy to park and I have been there for many sold out concerts that wouldn't be that much different from a baseball game.

Yeah I don't get it. Just plan where you are going to park. Or park a bit away and ride the street car. The street car will get you to within like a block in a half. I remember I went with my parents one time and they drove up to the Sprint Center expecting there to be parking right next to it, then bitched about no parking not heeding to my advice to turn left and park at x, y and z four blocks earlier

Deberg_1990 · 10-04-2017, 07:09 PM

"If you build it, they will come"

I've never seen an instance of any new ballpark that had attendance problems

Fans will come. They always do

BWillie · 10-04-2017, 07:12 PM

I attended a Twins game at their new downtown ball park with my cousin last summer. Parked & rode the train thing in. Went right by the stadium. Was very convenient. Was able to drink before, after, eat at places NOT called Denny's. Lots of hotels if you want instead of ADAMS MARK that has bed bugs. Fantastic deal and beautiful.

BWillie · 10-04-2017, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

I know the Pareto principle you dipshit. KC is a different type of market. The city is spread out and really the vast majority of fans would have to drive to a downtown stadium. Unless you’re going to use light rail or busses to bring people from the likes of Overland Park, Olathe, Lee’s Summit, etc... to the ballpark and back home. Most of the population of KC lives outside of the downtown area.

Downtown is, you know, right in the middle of the city. Making it really easy for anybody from anywhere to get there. It takes me ****ing 45 minutes to get to the stadium. Sure, downtown stadium only shaves 15 minutes off. But it's virtually accessible to EVERYONE. I go downtown quite a bit to meet up with friends who live in Liberty, Blue Springs, Gladstone because it's a nice central location to meet.

Prison Bitch · 10-04-2017, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

I know the Pareto principle you dipshit. KC is a different type of market. The city is spread out and really the vast majority of fans would have to drive to a downtown stadium. Unless you’re going to use light rail or busses to bring people from the likes of Overland Park, Olathe, Lee’s Summit, etc... to the ballpark and back home. Most of the population of KC lives outside of the downtown area.

Over 90% of our fans live in the metro.

If you're now arguing the metro is "spread out", well: that's a very diff argument than they live far away

tomahawk kid · 10-04-2017, 07:23 PM

Anyone that’s parked in one of the garages for a Sprint Center concert would tell you this would be a logistical nightmare. It MIGHT work if you had light rail in place & functioning first. That’s a big “if”.

Deberg_1990 · 10-04-2017, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

I know the Pareto principle you dipshit. KC is a different type of market. The city is spread out and really the vast majority of fans would have to drive to a downtown stadium. Unless you’re going to use light rail or busses to bring people from the likes of Overland Park, Olathe, Lee’s Summit, etc... to the ballpark and back home. Most of the population of KC lives outside of the downtown area.

KC area is tiny compared to a lot of metro areas with downtown ballparks.

**LoneWolf** · 10-04-2017, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant

Agreed. Build the area up around the stadiums. Not vice versa.

Yep.

BlackHelicopters · 10-04-2017, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Really? Downtown has really came alive starting about a decade ago. I think it's a fantastic place. I'd love to live down there.

Why don’t you live there?

**Bugeater** · 10-04-2017, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

You are virtually the only person I've ever talked to that didn't like their cities downtown stadium.

I ****ing despise ours and the jackass that foisted it on to us as well.

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