James Gunn's Superman - 7/11/2025

[SAGA45]

[Wallcrawler]

Whole thing just looks like shit.

Rip off DragonBall Z in opening shot.
Dollar store Superman pajamas.
Stupid ass super dog.
Jackass hairstyle/bumbling idiot version of Clark Kent
Shitty Blonde Lloyd Chrismas hair for Guy Gardner
Crying over a robot.
Temu Godzilla
Bloated cast of characters because James Gunn.
Giant shit taken on John Williams score.

Looks like ass. Henry should be pumped they fired him.

[Imon Yourside]

I miss Cavill and will hate reboots until the day I pass.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I honesty didn’t like Suicide Squad much. I expected better.

I liked Ayer’s version better.

He neglected the fun. Has said as much.

A superhero movie that takes itself too seriously is always going to fail.

[Easy 6]

SAGA would be right to hate my guts here, I've done nothing but dump on this movie

But man just look at that opening shot as he's laying there, you can see the padded shoulders shifting around lol, it looks like the old George Reeves padded outfit for crying out loud

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

He neglected the fun. Has said as much.

A superhero movie that takes itself too seriously is always going to fail.

The Dark Knight trilogy did just fine. Ed Norton’s Incredible Hulk, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, etc.

It can be done.

[stumppy]

I always figured they would never find a better SM than Reeve, but then Cavill took over, and he became Superman. The problem for me is they won't/can't let this superhero fade away. I don't remember how long it's been since the last Cavill SM movie, but it's not long enough. While the last twenty-some years have been great for this genre, I'm getting burnt out on it.
Unless this gets at least 8/10 ratings I'll prob pass.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

He neglected the fun. Has said as much.

A superhero movie that takes itself too seriously is always going to fail.

Usually, but Nolan's Batman trilogy was awesome.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Usually, but Nolan's Batman trilogy was awesome.

Rises was a frothy jar of ass from top to bottom, but Begins was pretty good and Dark Knight is probably in top 3 best Superhero films ever made.


This Superman film just looks like a mulligan for James Gunn after Suicide Squad faceplanted so hard.

I just don't see how he doesn't address the feedback on how trash that costume looks. I mean it's overwhelmingly negative, and he's just doubling down on bad Superman cosplayer look saying he didn't want form fitting and fake muscles.

Superman nuts like Angry Joe may find something of value in this film, but as a casual viewer, he looks ridiculous, and looks more like a Saturday morning cartoon aimed at 8 year olds brought to life adding the dog.

[Red Dawg]

Looks crazy

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Rises was a frothy jar of ass from top to bottom, but Begins was pretty good and Dark Knight is probably in top 3 best Superhero films ever made.


This Superman film just looks like a mulligan for James Gunn after Suicide Squad faceplanted so hard.

I just don't see how he doesn't address the feedback on how trash that costume looks. I mean it's overwhelmingly negative, and he's just doubling down on bad Superman cosplayer look saying he didn't want form fitting and fake muscles.

Superman nuts like Angry Joe may find something of value in this film, but as a casual viewer, he looks ridiculous, and looks more like a Saturday morning cartoon aimed at 8 year olds brought to life adding the dog.

Lol damn Rises is by far my favorite one. The Joker is so played out. Batman having to climb the pit without the rope. League of Shadows and Bane was just fantastic IMO.

[Buehler445]

I might check it out for Rachel Brosnahan. She is really good.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Lol damn Rises is by far my favorite one. The Joker is so played out. Batman having to climb the pit without the rope. League of Shadows and Bane was just fantastic IMO.

Nolan reduced Bane to a thug that was a half sandwich away from fat, with a crab stuck on his face sounding like he talked into a Pringles can. If he didn't want to actually do Bane, then he should not have put the character in his film.

Somehow in their first meeting, the "World's greatest detective" somehow doesn't make the mental leap that the crab on fat thugs face is probably pretty important.

Gets his vertebrae dislocated, but not to worry, a few situps and chin ups in a montage, and all his physical limitations just melt away, culminating in the rematch, where the two find each other amidst the battle for Gotham, and the most legendary exchange of one liners takes place.

Bane: (into the Pringles can) So! You came back to die with your city!

Batman: No. I came back to stop you.


Cue the viral meme of the group of onlookers shouting oooooohhhh and removing their shirts and jumping around like apes at the sick retort.

Now, after enough pull-ups, the crab on fat pringles mascot is now flashing like the weak spot on an arcade boss, and Bats pummels the fat shit face ****ing his seafood, until he's eventually subdued.

It's awful bro. Just awful.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Nolan reduced Bane to a thug that was a half sandwich away from fat, with a crab stuck on his face sounding like he talked into a Pringles can. If he didn't want to actually do Bane, then he should not have put the character in his film.

Somehow in their first meeting, the "World's greatest detective" somehow doesn't make the mental leap that the crab on fat thugs face is probably pretty important.

Gets his vertebrae dislocated, but not to worry, a few situps and chin ups in a montage, and all his physical limitations just melt away, culminating in the rematch, where the two find each other amidst the battle for Gotham, and the most legendary exchange of one liners takes place.

Bane: (into the Pringles can) So! You came back to die with your city!

Batman: No. I came back to stop you.


Cue the viral meme of the group of onlookers shouting oooooohhhh and removing their shirts and jumping around like apes at the sick retort.

Now, after enough pull-ups, the crab on fat pringles mascot is now flashing like the weak spot on an arcade boss, and Bats pummels the fat shit face ****ing his seafood, until he's eventually subdued.

It's awful bro. Just awful.

Nonsense!

So many great Bane quotes. The Bane crashing the plane scene and the football stadium scene are just so so epic. Such a great film.

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Bruce Wayne : Why didn't you just... kill me?

Bane : You don't fear death... You welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.
----------------------------
Bane : [to Batman] Peace has cost you your strength! Victory has defeated you!
----------------------------
Bane : You fight like a younger man, with nothing held back. Admirable but mistaken.
----------------------------
Bane : Oh, you think darkness is your ally. But you merely adopted the dark; I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING!
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Bane: No! They expect one of us in the wreckage brother.
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Bane : The shadows betray you, because they belong to me!
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Bane : Speak of the devil and he shall appear.
----------------------------
John Daggett : No! You stay here, I'm in charge!

Bane : [puts his hand on Daggett's shoulder] Do you *feel* in charge?

[Stryver leaves]

John Daggett : I paid you a small fortune.

Bane : And this gives you *power* over me?

John Daggett : What is this?

Bane : Your money and infrastructure have been important... 'til now!

John Daggett : What are you?

Bane : I'm Gotham's reckoning. Here to end the borrowed time you've all been living on!

John Daggett : You're pure evil!

Bane : I'm *necessary* evil!
----------------------------
Trader #1 : This is a stock exchange! There's no money you can steal!

Bane : Really? Then why are you people here?
-----------------------------
Bane : Identify yourself to the world.

[holds microphone in front of Dr. Pavel, as if he is conducting a news interview]

Dr. Pavel : Dr. Leonid Pavel, nuclear physicist.

Bane : And what... what is this?

Dr. Pavel : It's a... fully primed neutron bomb, with a blast radius of six miles.

Bane : And who is capable of disarming such a device?

Dr. Pavel : Only me.

Bane : Only you. Thank you, good doctor!

[snaps Dr. Pavel's neck. The crowd screams in terror]
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[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Nonsense!

So many great Bane quotes. The Bane crashing the plane scene and the football stadium scene are just so so epic. Such a great film.

-------------------------
Bruce Wayne : Why didn't you just... kill me?

Bane : You don't fear death... You welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.
----------------------------
Bane : [to Batman] Peace has cost you your strength! Victory has defeated you!
----------------------------
Bane : You fight like a younger man, with nothing held back. Admirable but mistaken.
----------------------------
Bane : Oh, you think darkness is your ally. But you merely adopted the dark; I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING!
----------------------------
Bane: No! They expect one of us in the wreckage brother.
----------------------------
Bane : The shadows betray you, because they belong to me!
-----------------------------
Bane : Speak of the devil and he shall appear.
----------------------------
John Daggett : No! You stay here, I'm in charge!

Bane : [puts his hand on Daggett's shoulder] Do you *feel* in charge?

[Stryver leaves]

John Daggett : I paid you a small fortune.

Bane : And this gives you *power* over me?

John Daggett : What is this?

Bane : Your money and infrastructure have been important... 'til now!

John Daggett : What are you?

Bane : I'm Gotham's reckoning. Here to end the borrowed time you've all been living on!

John Daggett : You're pure evil!

Bane : I'm *necessary* evil!
----------------------------
Trader #1 : This is a stock exchange! There's no money you can steal!

Bane : Really? Then why are you people here?
-----------------------------
Bane : Identify yourself to the world.

[holds microphone in front of Dr. Pavel, as if he is conducting a news interview]

Dr. Pavel : Dr. Leonid Pavel, nuclear physicist.

Bane : And what... what is this?

Dr. Pavel : It's a... fully primed neutron bomb, with a blast radius of six miles.

Bane : And who is capable of disarming such a device?

Dr. Pavel : Only me.

Bane : Only you. Thank you, good doctor!

[snaps Dr. Pavel's neck. The crowd screams in terror]
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A few snappy lines and some CGI doesn't undo the crime Nolan committed against Bane from the comics.

Bane was never league of Shadows, so the excommunication angle is just some horseshit to get him into his series, and he completely excluded the experiments done on him with the Venom super steroid, which increased his body and muscle mass to an insane degree, which is Banes defining characteristic.

To better explain the stupidity and pointlessness of this, imagine Marvel doing a Venom film, but Eddie doesn't ever have an alien symbiote that turns him I to the hulking Venom character, and instead is just a criminal with a multiple personality disorder that runs around saying "We are Venom" Like, what's the point?

Nolan should've simply resurrected Ra's Al Ghul and had the League of Shadows be the foil once again instead of this Temu version of Bane that should've been in the credits as League of Shadows Turd#1 if he didnt want to do Bane right

Liam Neeson would've been far more spectacular in this role, returning from the Lazarus pit, and having been the man to train Bruce, him being able to defeat him initially would not have required Batman to be reeruned to lose.



Anyway, I'm derailing a Superman thread ranting about Batman.


I've seen several videos on YouTube with people pretty excited for this. I can't tell if it's ge uine excitement or just blind fanboying over the character coming to the screen again.

I mean, as a Spider Man nut, I was excited for Spider Man 3, which was absolutely terrible. I just wanted more Spider Man, no matter who was doing it or who was in it.

As a fan of comics, I genuinely hope that the Superman fans get the film they want.

My buddy is a MASSIVE Superman fan, and I loved Man of Steel, but when we saw it in the theater, when Superman snapped Zods neck at the end, he flat walked out of the theater, his wife chasing after him confused as hell lol.

To this day he's never watched any of the other Snyder films with Henry Cavill. Told him he'd shit a brick if he thought Supes killing one God tier villain was offensive, because Batman engaged in wholesale slaughter lmao.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

A few snappy lines and some CGI doesn't undo the crime Nolan committed against Bane from the comics.

Bane was never league of Shadows, so the excommunication angle is just some horseshit to get him into his series, and he completely excluded the experiments done on him with the Venom super steroid, which increased his body and muscle mass to an insane degree, which is Banes defining characteristic.

To better explain the stupidity and pointlessness of this, imagine Marvel doing a Venom film, but Eddie doesn't ever have an alien symbiote that turns him I to the hulking Venom character, and instead is just a criminal with a multiple personality disorder that runs around saying "We are Venom" Like, what's the point?

Nolan should've simply resurrected Ra's Al Ghul and had the League of Shadows be the foil once again instead of this Temu version of Bane that should've been in the credits as League of Shadows Turd#1 if he didnt want to do Bane right

Liam Neeson would've been far more spectacular in this role, returning from the Lazarus pit, and having been the man to train Bruce, him being able to defeat him initially would not have required Batman to be reeruned to lose.



Anyway, I'm derailing a Superman thread ranting about Batman.


I've seen several videos on YouTube with people pretty excited for this. I can't tell if it's ge uine excitement or just blind fanboying over the character coming to the screen again.

I mean, as a Spider Man nut, I was excited for Spider Man 3, which was absolutely terrible. I just wanted more Spider Man, no matter who was doing it or who was in it.

As a fan of comics, I genuinely hope that the Superman fans get the film they want.

My buddy is a MASSIVE Superman fan, and I loved Man of Steel, but when we saw it in the theater, when Superman snapped Zods neck at the end, he flat walked out of the theater, his wife chasing after him confused as hell lol.

To this day he's never watched any of the other Snyder films with Henry Cavill. Told him he'd shit a brick if he thought Supes killing one God tier villain was offensive, because Batman engaged in wholesale slaughter lmao.

Ohhhh I see. I don't read comics or care at all about how it is compared to the movie. I just wanna see good films.