Decent Backup QB Might Be Availabe - Page 4

milkman · 08-24-2000, 05:42 PM

Shane Matthews, apparent odd-man-out in the Bears QB shuffle, might become availabe for the right price. According to stories in the press up here, Matthews will get good playing time in the upcoming Bears/Titans game in an attempt to showcase his talents for prospective takers. The Bears haven't decided whether or not to dump him, but it is a likely possibility.

Matthews certainly ain't no Joe Montana, but is a decent QB and VASTLY SUPERIOR to any of our backups (hell, he might even give Elvis a run for his money). I posted his '99 stats below (remember, he shared starting time with McNown and Miller).

Were I Carl, I'd give this guy some serious consideration. Currently we're screwed if anything happens to Elvis.

SHANE MATTHEWS PASSING STATS

Att 275
Comp 167
Yds 1645
Comp % 60.7
Yds/Att 6.0
TD 10
TD % 3.6
INT 6
INT % 2.2
Long 56
Sack/Lost 13/79
Rating 80.6

shakesthecat · 08-25-2000, 09:09 PM

Living in Knoxville, I have been watching the Titans and Chicago. Matthew came in midway thru the 3rd quarter, Tennessee leading 31-7. Three straight TD's, and a 2 pt conversion. Also, Tennessee 4th QB, Volek, played two series, one pass to his TE, about 40 yards, the rest just handoffs. This guy would be much better than Ted White.

**Dartgod** · 08-25-2000, 10:00 PM

Darius Jackson from Denver will probably be waived, with Bronco hopes of him clearing waivers. The Chiefs should grab this kid. A real sweet arm and foot speed.

milkman · 08-25-2000, 10:03 PM

Wow. Sounds like in a quarter-and-a-half my boy Shane outplayed ALL of our current QBs in all four preseason games combined. Wouldn't you love this guy in KC?

The problems with such a performance are (1) the Bears will be a lot less likely to part with him now; (2) if they do, a lot more teams will be interested; and (3) his pricetag probably just rose to the point we couldn't get him, anyway.

In other words, we're probably screwed.

But I must say that a little personal validation is a good thing.

The-Man · 08-25-2000, 10:30 PM

Clint what makes me sick is the Chiefs could of gotten Bishop for god sakes in the latter rounds!!They passed because they didn't think he had the smarts....Pats love him and I would love to have him on our team....We clearly have no back up...Bishop would of been a steal in the latter rounds.

Mike · 08-25-2000, 11:03 PM

flowergirl - Was that actually reported, that the Chiefs passed up on him because they had doubts about his smarts? I would think they passed on him because he's short. You know Gunther loves small players. [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

Mike · 08-25-2000, 11:14 PM

I worry more about our starting QB than our backups. If ANY starting QB goes down, his team is usually affected negetively. The starting QB is much more important to the team, and Grbac hasn't shown me anything this preseason to make me any more comfortable.

The-Man · 08-25-2000, 11:22 PM

GMan...I guess I should of said alot of teams passed on him because of the smarts...I remember that being a real issue about him.

Mike · 08-25-2000, 11:31 PM

Relating to the combine test results?

08-25-2000, 11:49 PM

It WILL NOT matter who the QB is in Raye's JOKE of a system. Is it by chance that ALL our QB's $UCK? I don't think so. The PROBLEM is in the BOOTH people and it has been for 3 years. I think that Gun FINALLY knows this now. He pointed the finger at the offense at the half. Even the old reliable "smashmouth" WON'T help this year becaus we have NO "D" to save the offense. We're looking at 4-12 and id DIDN'T have to be this way. Tom Rossley is GONE to Green bay and Al Saunders is GONE to the Rams. BOTH are would be BETTER Offensive Coordinators than Jimmy-dis-a Raye! Don't even get me started on old Kurt! One word sums things up - PATHETIC!

redbrian · 08-26-2000, 05:35 AM

G_Man (re #44)

Yeah, it's risky, but wouldn't our 1st pick be used on a guy that hasn't proven anything, anyway?

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**alanm** · 08-26-2000, 07:39 AM

If your pop a cap in that enormous bonus, then I can live with Grbac as my QB for a few seasons while we mine and polish our diamond in the rough QB. I still do not believe he is the long-term answer for the Chiefs, although he is probably the best QB in the AFC West at this time [preseason impressions to the contrary].

Grbac is a temporary solution to a long-term problem, IMO. We have not had a franchise QB for a long, long time. I applaud the attempt to find a QBOTF in White, but that experiment is terminated. We need to find our QBOTF. Renegotiate that ludicrous bonus out of existence and rely on Grbac until the quest bears fruit. Either the bonus goes, or Grbac goes.

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KCTitus · 08-26-2000, 09:23 AM

I agree with Bill Mass's assessment on Grbac last night. For those of you that missed it, the bottom line is Mass thinks we not only have an issue at backup QB, but at starter also.

I would go after Shane Mathewes. If we start out 0-3, (I watched some of the Cards- Chargers game. Leaf is going to be the best QB in the west this year) I hand the riegns over to Mathewes to grow with the rest of the youth on the team.

KCTitus · 08-26-2000, 09:25 AM

Matthews! Sorry, didn't know how he spelled his name.

**alanm** · 08-26-2000, 09:28 AM

Coogs-

A really cool feature of this BB is that you can edit your posts when you misspell something. Click on the "pencil & paper" icon at the top of the post and you can edit and repost.

xoxo~
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unfortunately will be using that feature a lot.<BR>

WarPaint · 08-26-2000, 10:39 AM

According the San Fran Examiner the 49ers will carry 4 QB's. So it doesn't look like we could lean toward Carmazzi or Rattay for a third QB.

08-25-2000, 09:09 PM	#46
shakesthecat Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: IA Casino cash: $4103833	Living in Knoxville, I have been watching the Titans and Chicago. Matthew came in midway thru the 3rd quarter, Tennessee leading 31-7. Three straight TD's, and a 2 pt conversion. Also, Tennessee 4th QB, Volek, played two series, one pass to his TE, about 40 yards, the rest just handoffs. This guy would be much better than Ted White.
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08-25-2000, 10:00 PM	#47
Dartgod Wasted away again... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: in Margaritaville Casino cash: $7160000	Darius Jackson from Denver will probably be waived, with Bronco hopes of him clearing waivers. The Chiefs should grab this kid. A real sweet arm and foot speed.
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08-25-2000, 10:03 PM	#48
milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	Wow. Sounds like in a quarter-and-a-half my boy Shane outplayed ALL of our current QBs in all four preseason games combined. Wouldn't you love this guy in KC? The problems with such a performance are (1) the Bears will be a lot less likely to part with him now; (2) if they do, a lot more teams will be interested; and (3) his pricetag probably just rose to the point we couldn't get him, anyway. In other words, we're probably screwed. But I must say that a little personal validation is a good thing.
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08-25-2000, 10:30 PM	#49
The-Man Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: San Leandro, Ca, USA Casino cash: $10004900	Clint what makes me sick is the Chiefs could of gotten Bishop for god sakes in the latter rounds!!They passed because they didn't think he had the smarts....Pats love him and I would love to have him on our team....We clearly have no back up...Bishop would of been a steal in the latter rounds.
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08-25-2000, 11:03 PM	#50
Mike Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Austin Casino cash: $10004900	flowergirl - Was that actually reported, that the Chiefs passed up on him because they had doubts about his smarts? I would think they passed on him because he's short. You know Gunther loves small players. [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
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08-24-2000, 05:42 PM
milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	Shane Matthews, apparent odd-man-out in the Bears QB shuffle, might become availabe for the right price. According to stories in the press up here, Matthews will get good playing time in the upcoming Bears/Titans game in an attempt to showcase his talents for prospective takers. The Bears haven't decided whether or not to dump him, but it is a likely possibility. Matthews certainly ain't no Joe Montana, but is a decent QB and VASTLY SUPERIOR to any of our backups (hell, he might even give Elvis a run for his money). I posted his '99 stats below (remember, he shared starting time with McNown and Miller). Were I Carl, I'd give this guy some serious consideration. Currently we're screwed if anything happens to Elvis. SHANE MATTHEWS PASSING STATS Att 275 Comp 167 Yds 1645 Comp % 60.7 Yds/Att 6.0 TD 10 TD % 3.6 INT 6 INT % 2.2 Long 56 Sack/Lost 13/79 Rating 80.6
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08-25-2000, 11:14 PM	#51
Mike Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Austin Casino cash: $10004900	I worry more about our starting QB than our backups. If ANY starting QB goes down, his team is usually affected negetively. The starting QB is much more important to the team, and Grbac hasn't shown me anything this preseason to make me any more comfortable.
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08-25-2000, 11:22 PM	#52
The-Man Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: San Leandro, Ca, USA Casino cash: $10004900	GMan...I guess I should of said alot of teams passed on him because of the smarts...I remember that being a real issue about him.
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08-25-2000, 11:31 PM	#53
Mike Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Austin Casino cash: $10004900	Relating to the combine test results?
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08-25-2000, 11:49 PM	#54
The Blessed Virgin Larry Guest Casino cash: $	It WILL NOT matter who the QB is in Raye's JOKE of a system. Is it by chance that ALL our QB's $UCK? I don't think so. The PROBLEM is in the BOOTH people and it has been for 3 years. I think that Gun FINALLY knows this now. He pointed the finger at the offense at the half. Even the old reliable "smashmouth" WON'T help this year becaus we have NO "D" to save the offense. We're looking at 4-12 and id DIDN'T have to be this way. Tom Rossley is GONE to Green bay and Al Saunders is GONE to the Rams. BOTH are would be BETTER Offensive Coordinators than Jimmy-dis-a Raye! Don't even get me started on old Kurt! One word sums things up - PATHETIC!
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08-26-2000, 05:35 AM	#55
redbrian Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City MO Casino cash: $10004900	G_Man (re #44) Yeah, it's risky, but wouldn't our 1st pick be used on a guy that hasn't proven anything, anyway? ------------------ This is my signature!! There are many like it but this one is mine!!
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08-26-2000, 07:39 AM	#56
alanm Feeling Victorian Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Nebraska/Wyoming/Colorado Casino cash: $1576436	If your pop a cap in that enormous bonus, then I can live with Grbac as my QB for a few seasons while we mine and polish our diamond in the rough QB. I still do not believe he is the long-term answer for the Chiefs, although he is probably the best QB in the AFC West at this time [preseason impressions to the contrary]. Grbac is a temporary solution to a long-term problem, IMO. We have not had a franchise QB for a long, long time. I applaud the attempt to find a QBOTF in White, but that experiment is terminated. We need to find our QBOTF. Renegotiate that ludicrous bonus out of existence and rely on Grbac until the quest bears fruit. Either the bonus goes, or Grbac goes. xoxo~ gaz willing to stick with Grbac provided the bonus is gone.<BR>
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08-26-2000, 09:23 AM	#57
KCTitus Archivist Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Ethernet Casino cash: $9892732	I agree with Bill Mass's assessment on Grbac last night. For those of you that missed it, the bottom line is Mass thinks we not only have an issue at backup QB, but at starter also. I would go after Shane Mathewes. If we start out 0-3, (I watched some of the Cards- Chargers game. Leaf is going to be the best QB in the west this year) I hand the riegns over to Mathewes to grow with the rest of the youth on the team.
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08-26-2000, 09:25 AM	#58
KCTitus Archivist Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Ethernet Casino cash: $9892732	Matthews! Sorry, didn't know how he spelled his name.
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08-26-2000, 09:28 AM	#59
alanm Feeling Victorian Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Nebraska/Wyoming/Colorado Casino cash: $1576436	Coogs- A really cool feature of this BB is that you can edit your posts when you misspell something. Click on the "pencil & paper" icon at the top of the post and you can edit and repost. xoxo~ gaz unfortunately will be using that feature a lot.<BR>
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08-26-2000, 10:39 AM	#60
WarPaint Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10004900	According the San Fran Examiner the 49ers will carry 4 QB's. So it doesn't look like we could lean toward Carmazzi or Rattay for a third QB.
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