Leaving 6 mil in Lamar's pockets instead of using it on the field

[BigRedChief]

The leaving 6 million under the cap is pissing me off more and more. I just can't let it go.

If Carl and DV didn't see anyone out there that they wanted to sign as it has been argued, why not restructure exsisting contracts to use the cap room now and have more money next year to spend?

There is only one conclusion from this....They were and are beng cheap.

And as a fan and season ticket holder to not try your best to put the best team out on the field is inexcusable and a slap in the face to the loyal fans...

this is pissing me off to no end.. Dammit Carl!

Thanks foe letting me vent. I feel much better now.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

whats he going to do, buy a six million dollar casket?

You are an asshole.

[Lzen]

Didn't they use some (or possibly most) of that 6 million to sign Welbourn and Bober? Or am I missing something here?

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by nmt1

...In addition, even if the Chiefs have $30 million available right now, they obviously aren't going to do anything with it. I have trouble understanding why people are so offended by this even if it is true.

I WOULD have a problem if that were the case. I expect them to do everything in their power to produce the most competitive team on the field. When I have to pay $60 for a ticket (and that's just the nosebleeds), $6 for a beer, $20 for parking, etc. I expect to get my money's worth.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by KCTitus

Look, I dont infer sh*t...If I wanted to question your fandom, I would have done it straight to your face.

I'll repeat this for the 10th time now...and I cannot believe that you cannot follow this without getting your panties in a twist.

If profit is the only thing this organization understands and appreciates, then what is it that we, as fans, have to do to get them to change?

I'll let you answer the question so Im not inferring 'you're not a true fan'.

Damn, this is so simple...Im using your own frigging logic.

LOOK, I think you are the one who isn't following, for the umpteenth time I said IT WASN'T THE ONLY FACTOR. I said it was the motivating factor. Before attacking someone maybe you should actually take your own advice.
Also, what would you consider this statement to mean..."And if you're so pissed off about the team "pocketing" money at your expense, don't vote for Bi-State 2. While you're at it, don't buy tickets, don't go to games, don't buy merchandise, and don't watch the games on TV. That is their main sources of revenue.

If they're truly content with just "filling the seats" that's the ONLY way you'll ever get what you want."

I mistook HTIS's take for yours, sorry for the confusion, but you can now see that it was more than just inferred.

[nmt1]

Originally Posted by Lzen

I WOULD have a problem if that were the case. I expect them to do everything in their power to produce the most competitive team on the field. When I have to pay $60 for a ticket (and that's just the nosebleeds), $6 for a beer, $20 for parking, etc. I expect to get my money's worth.

It's your right to expect such but it's also your right to decide not to go if you think they are not doing everything in their power to produce a superior product which is what I've been trying to point out to some others...and no, I don't think you're a true fan.

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by Lzen

You are an asshole.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by nmt1

It's your right to expect such but it's also your right to decide not to go if you think they are not doing everything in their power to produce a superior product which is what I've been trying to point out to some others...and no, I don't think you're a true fan.

Heh, I would boycott the games, etc. if that were the case. However, the league does have a salary cap minimum as well as a maximum. So, don't think it's possible for a team to be 30 mil under.

As for this year, I wonder how accurate those numbers are. For the past 15 years, the Chiefs have always spent right up to the cap limit as far as I can remember. Why would they decide all of a sudden to not do that?

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

I think it's safe to assume that you hear that a lot.

[KCTitus]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

LOOK, I think you are the one who isn't following, for the umpteenth time I said IT WASN'T THE ONLY FACTOR. I said it was the motivating factor. Before attacking someone maybe you should actually take your own advice.

You started it, Im merely reciprocating. Ok, we'll go with the squiggle, and ask the question, for the 11th time using your new word:

If the motiviating factor of this organization is profit, then what can we, as fans, do to motivate the franchise to change?

And again, I'll let you answer or squiggle so as to not infer that you're not a 'true fan'.

Also, what would you consider this statement to mean..."And if you're so pissed off about the team "pocketing" money at your expense, don't vote for Bi-State 2. While you're at it, don't buy tickets, don't go to games, don't buy merchandise, and don't watch the games on TV. That is their main sources of revenue.

If they're truly content with just "filling the seats" that's the ONLY way you'll ever get what you want."

I would take it to be the logical conclusion to your complaint. How you cant make the connection is baffling. Unless you just like whining about it.

I mistook HTIS's take for yours, sorry for the confusion, but you can now see that it was more than just inferred.

unintelligible...you want to try that again.

[nmt1]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Heh, I would boycott the games, etc. if that were the case. However, the league does have a salary cap minimum as well as a maximum. So, don't think it's possible for a team to be 30 mil under.

As for this year, I wonder how accurate those numbers are. For the past 15 years, the Chiefs have always spent right up to the cap limit as far as I can remember. Why would they decide all of a sudden to not do that?

You got me. I'll probably never work for the Chiefs either so I'll probably never know.

[KCTitus]

Originally Posted by Lzen

As for this year, I wonder how accurate those numbers are. For the past 15 years, the Chiefs have always spent right up to the cap limit as far as I can remember. Why would they decide all of a sudden to not do that?

The logic, as I understand it from this thread is 'because they got too close to winning it all' or something like that.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

LOOK, I think you are the one who isn't following, for the umpteenth time I said IT WASN'T THE ONLY FACTOR. I said it was the motivating factor. Before attacking someone maybe you should actually take your own advice.
Also, what would you consider this statement to mean..."And if you're so pissed off about the team "pocketing" money at your expense, don't vote for Bi-State 2. While you're at it, don't buy tickets, don't go to games, don't buy merchandise, and don't watch the games on TV. That is their main sources of revenue.

If they're truly content with just "filling the seats" that's the ONLY way you'll ever get what you want."

I mistook HTIS's take for yours, sorry for the confusion, but you can now see that it was more than just inferred.

Ok, you're officially a moron.

What would I consider that statement to mean?

I consider it to mean that:

1) IF the team is primarily concerned with profit and secondarily concerned with winning and
2) you and others are fed up with it then

the logical course of action is to STOP GIVING THEM MONEY. You are the one that accused them of being primarily concerned with making money, not me.

NOWHERE did I, expressly or implicitly, "question your fandom".

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Ok, you're officially a moron.

What would I consider that statement to mean?

I consider it to mean that:

1) IF the team is primarily concerned with profit and secondarily concerned with winning and
2) you and others are fed up with it then

the logical course of action is to STOP GIVING THEM MONEY. You are the one that accused them of being primarily concerned with making money, not me.

NOWHERE did I, expressly or implicitly, "question your fandom".

Nothing like attacking someone when they ruffle your feathers. Sorry you can't be objective enough to see some of the valid points. I didn't know you were the only one entitled an opinion here. I stand by what I said and I won't stoop to your childish name-calling to get my point across. You seem to think that because I question some of the FO's motives that I should just give up on the team in the place that I live in. It's deeper than that, you can still pull for them and not believe in every move they make. Why can't you see that?

[KC Kings]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Ok, you're officially a moron.

What would I consider that statement to mean?

I consider it to mean that:

1) IF the team is primarily concerned with profit and secondarily concerned with winning and
2) you and others are fed up with it then

the logical course of action is to STOP GIVING THEM MONEY. You are the one that accused them of being primarily concerned with making money, not me.

NOWHERE did I, expressly or implicitly, "question your fandom".

I did stop giving them my money and will never pay over $40 to go to another Chiefs game. I think every team should boycott McCardell, and all the other players who want to reneg on their contracts to get more cash from the owners.

I look at it 2 ways. 1, Lamar is rich, and knows how to handle his money. If he thought spending 6 mil extra would give them a shot at all the SB profit, he would spend it. 2, he spent a bunch of money on the Defense last year, and they still sucked. 3., look at the Redskins... look at the money they spent and still couldn't get anywhere.

Lamar is a business man, and knows what he is doing. If it were me, I would be broke in 3 years trading players and buying big contracts pretending that the NFL is just like my FFL teams.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by KCTitus

You started it, Im merely reciprocating. Ok, we'll go with the squiggle, and ask the question, for the 11th time using your new word:

If the motiviating factor of this organization is profit, then what can we, as fans, do to motivate the franchise to change?

And again, I'll let you answer or squiggle so as to not infer that you're not a 'true fan'.



I would take it to be the logical conclusion to your complaint. How you cant make the connection is baffling. Unless you just like whining about it.



unintelligible...you want to try that again.

I can make the connection, I just don't agree that is the only way of getting your point across. I'll use an analogy to try and make it as clear as possible. If you have a child and you truly love that child and that kid gets involved in heavy drug use. You can still love that child heart and soul and still not agree with their actions, but you still don't give up on that child. We just need to agree to disagree because I still believe as a fan we all have the right to voice our opinions, right, wrong or indifferent. I thought thats what the whole basis of the message board was in the first place.