Chiefs Chiefs Are "Begging" To Get Out Of 1st Pick - Page 40

houstonwhodat · 05:02 AM

According to this reporter at SB Nation, the Chiefs are "begging" to get out of the 1st pick in the draft.

April 15th:

"The Kansas City Chiefs earned the top spot in the NFL Draft with their 2-14 record last season, but it seems increasingly likely that they won't be the ones to actually make the first selection: Mike Freeman of CBS writes that the Chiefs are "begging" for the opportunity to move the pick."

"It's no surprise that the Kansas City Chiefs are open to trades for the No. 1 pick. They've already traded for a quarterback in Alex Smith, and the near-consensus best player available, Luke Joeckel, doesn't seem to be inspiring huge amounts of excitement in Kansas City, especially since Branden Albert has been a solid option for them at the position ever since they used their first-round pick on him in 2008. It is a little bit surprising how open they seem to be about it. Andy Reid said the team was open to it all the way back in February, and GM John Dorsey made similar statements a few weeks ago. But that's nothing compared to all the rumors of behind-the-scenes machinations trying to trade the pick. For what it's worth, Dan Kadar of Mocking the Draft said moving the pick was a "dream scenario" when he analyzed the Chiefs' choices in February."

"No team has traded a No. 1 pick since 2004 when the Chargers traded Eli Manning to the Giants, but that was a different scenario, as Manning had publicly stated he wouldn't play for the Chargers. Despite the ultimatum, they were still able to get a good haul for him - the fourth pick in that draft, Phillip Rivers, as well as first and third-round picks in 2005. The Rams were able to get an arm and a leg from the Redskins for the second pick in last year's draft, receiving last year's No. 6 pick and a second-rounder as well as first-round picks in this upcoming draft and in 2014. However, those trades were both for franchise-caliber quarterbacks, something this class has a dearth of."

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/1...ing-trade-down

Marcellus · 04-17-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook

Thank god we have Dorsey though. Who says he will take BPA.

That being said, taking position of need out of the equation, who is the BPA in this draft?

DTLB58 · 04-17-2013, 03:00 PM

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout 5m

#Lions trading 2013 and 2014 1st Round picks to #Chiefs for No. 1 overall sounds like something made up in Kansas City. Shouldn't happen.

Uh? Is this happening or speculation?

Red Brooklyn · 04-17-2013, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DTLB58

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout 5m

#Lions trading 2013 and 2014 1st Round picks to #Chiefs for No. 1 overall sounds like something made up in Kansas City. Shouldn't happen.

Uh? Is this happening or speculation?

No way.

bsp4444 · 04-17-2013, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DTLB58

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout 5m

#Lions trading 2013 and 2014 1st Round picks to #Chiefs for No. 1 overall sounds like something made up in Kansas City. Shouldn't happen.

Uh? Is this happening or speculation?

Awesome if true, but unlikely.

Bewbies · 04-17-2013, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DTLB58

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout 5m

#Lions trading 2013 and 2014 1st Round picks to #Chiefs for No. 1 overall sounds like something made up in Kansas City. Shouldn't happen.

Uh? Is this happening or speculation?

How much did San Diego get to move to #4?

KCrockaholic · 04-17-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

You can't eliminate that game, in fact, that's the only game you can judge him on!!!

The fact is, in that game he got frustrated and just began chucking the ball up in the air. His team was behind and the gameplan wasn't really changing. He wasn't himself in that game.

He threw more deep passes in that game than in any other game during his career. There was a few times in that game in which he could have ran, but chose not to.

Anyways, even if we supplement this game with the LSU 2011 game his % for 2012 becomes 42.5% for the season. My point is sample size, and he didn't play poorly throwing downfield all season. That stat is literally skewed because of one horrible game.

patteeu · 04-17-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook

Jeez Polian saying we should either trade down, Get a OT, or get a DT.

The emerging consensus seems to be that if you want to do what's best for your team in the draft this year, you take the lineman (most commonly an OT) at 1.1. If you want to cynically sell tickets and energize the fans, you take a QB at 1.1.

Sorter · 04-17-2013, 03:06 PM

Somewhere, RunKC is uber-pissed about this.

penbrook · 04-17-2013, 03:07 PM

On NFL32 they asked Mort what will Andy do at #1 because Mort knows Andy well and Mort said a qb because he doesnt think Alex is the long term answer.

DTLB58 · 04-17-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

How much did San Diego get to move to #4?

San Diego Chargers Get: North Carolina State quarterback Philip Rivers, the No. 5 overall selection in the 2004 draft. In addition, San Diego received the Giants' third-round pick in 2004 (used on kicker Nate Kaeding, No. 65 overall) and Giants' first- and fifth-round picks in 2005 (first-rounder used on Shawne Merriman, No. 12 overall; fifth-rounder traded to Tampa Bay, who traded pick to St. Louis Rams).

So according to this, we are getting the shaft.

KCrockaholic · 04-17-2013, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook

On NFL32 they asked Mort what will Andy do at #1 because Mort knows Andy well and Mort said a qb because he doesnt think Alex is the long term answer.

Atta boy

RunKC · 04-17-2013, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception

Somewhere, RunKC is uber-pissed about this.

You aren't getting on the next douche poll Sorter. But I respect you for trying.

penbrook · 04-17-2013, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

Atta boy

At least one expert out there is riding the Geno train.

Bewbies · 04-17-2013, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DTLB58

San Diego Chargers Get: North Carolina State quarterback Philip Rivers, the No. 5 overall selection in the 2004 draft. In addition, San Diego received the Giants' third-round pick in 2004 (used on kicker Nate Kaeding, No. 65 overall) and Giants' first- and fifth-round picks in 2005 (first-rounder used on Shawne Merriman, No. 12 overall; fifth-rounder traded to Tampa Bay, who traded pick to St. Louis Rams).

So according to this, we are getting the shaft.

And now the idea you'd get 1 first rounder to move back to 5 now is an idea made up in KC.

Sorter · 04-17-2013, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

You aren't getting on the next douche poll Sorter. But I respect you for trying.

Be honest now, you were a bit bitter about it, weren't you chum?

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