Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck. (part 2)

[Hammock Parties]

Old thread is archived here.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by BCD

Wtf does this have to do with anything?

He is just another example of a Chiefs fan propping up any and every other QB for the sole purpose of dumping on his own... awesomez!

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Who really is doing that, apart from the Alex Smith fanboys who have been on his nuts since the preseason? I don't feel like most people on CP gave Smith any kind of royal treatment the beginning of the year.

And the "fanboys" only really stated that he was a solid starter that KC can begin their winning ways with. Somehow, this gets bizarrely translated into "he is elitez and the gratest QB eva, you are so lucky to haves hims!"

Originally Posted by GOB

You are right. Because I don't find them nearly as annoying as you guys who are constantly trashing your own team and putting limits on what we can do.

If a QB drives the ball 80 yards but a running back comes in and runs the ball a yard he doesn't credit for the TD. If JC gets 70 YAC, the QB still gets credit for the TD. Those are extreme cases but systematically:

(a) a WCO vs a more vertical passing attack game will yield less TD's for the QB.
(b) a ball control team will yield less TD's for the QB. Basically, pace is slower and points are more valuable
(c) a team that wins by establishing early leads will yield less TD's

Sound familiar? (a), (b), (c) pretty much describes Jim Harbaugh's offense so it's not surprising to me he had low TD's before.

And it's not surprising to me that his TD numbers have gone up but are not lead leaguing. Reid's offense is more aggressive but we still have a phenomenal back and a good defense.

A QB with high TD numbers is going to be somebody who plays on team like the Cowboys. Stacked with talent at the passing end, piss poor on defense. They have to score, and continue to score, to win. And don't have a back like JC or Frank Gore to close games.

Excellent post again! WCO with typically strong D, STs, and RB... Also weak on pass pro and deep speed receivers. Well now, doesn't that just sound like the 2011-2012 49ers and 2013 Chiefs? :feigned shock:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Wow. You've gone off the deep end, and look like a douchebag in the process.

The douchebag has been you. You spent the ENTIRE damn day on here bitching and moaning.... making everything combative and nasty... all the while pretending to be fair and neutral... ultimately sounding like anything but a Chiefs fan. For shame. Anger and butthurt over past conversations that scar you to this day. How's that for pathetic? Seems you crawl over here to CP from another KC forum every few months... spew your garbage... then crawl on back. Maybe they kicked you out for good this time? nevermind, don't care. Eat shit, you pain in the ass pile of weeping, vaginal ooze.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by GOB

I don't know what your beef is with these former niner fans is or even who they are but it seems to me the people that are always starting beef are the usual suspects.

Probably the same beef most had with Patriot fans coming here in 2009.

See, 49er fans have seen success. Got enough Super Bowl rings to fill an entire hand.

Coming here and telling us how we should act, as fans, is beyond ridiculous.

Of course, I'm guessing this concept is completely lost on them. It's pretty obvious how old they are.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by htismaqe
Here's the thing - there's exaggeration on BOTH sides.

The issue is this:

One side is comprised of people that root for a TEAM. Some of them have been fans for TWENTY YEARS and have never seen said team win a SINGLE playoff game. Some of them have been fans for 40 years and have seen just ONE conference championship appearance. ONE.

The other side is comprised of people that came here for the SOLE PURPOSE of telling us how lucky we are for having Alex Smith. They proceed to tell everybody here how to treat said Alex Smith and how we have to think of him exactly the way they do or we're not good fans.

The reality is that the VAST MAJORITY of people here don't hate Alex Smith. In fact, even the majority of people that hated the trade like him now. You know why? Because he's gotten A LOT better. A LOT.

And yet, here are the Smith fans, continuing to harp on us being bad fans because we aren't willing to put a crown on him.

Only one side is out of line here.

So you and OTWP only have issues with the 49ers fans and that's what this is all about?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

So you and OTWP only have issues with the 49ers fans and that's what this is all about?

I can't speak for OTWP, but for me, this is now 100% about the 49er fans.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I can't speak for OTWP, but for me, this is now 100% about the 49er fans.

Gotcha.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I feel constrained to say, that that is a vastly skewed sense of the 'sides' at issue.

I think you're missing what the actual issue is. See my post to Marcellus.

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I too root for the team, only I am infinitely more patient and confident regarding Alex's role in the team.

To my view, there is a lot larger contingent than you suggest that have been consistently and incessantly miserable that this team has not been an arena ball gun-slinging choco-penis swinging circus regardless of how well the team overall fared.

Because we've seen that approach win SB title after SB title, starting in the late 90's.

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Control the lines, do your job TO A MAN, and be clutch when clutch is what is required is what I expect, and this team has excelled in these aims for much of the season.

And we've seen this approach reduced to a small, small minority.

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Through it all, I have never gotten the sense that some have cemented from the instant he was signed, . . . that Alex Smith will prove our inescapable doom. To the contrary, I remain optimistic, that is specifically presently unproven but worthy of hopeful expectation, that he will prove himself as solid as we've ever the right to expect.

I share your hope. But is solid good enough?

For some of us, just winning some games is enough. It's fun. For others, not having won a SB in 40 years, or a playoff game in 20, has taken it's toll on "hope".

Me, I'm in the 1st camp now. But only because I came to a realization about myself as part of the 2nd.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I can't speak for OTWP, but for me, this is now 100% about the 49er fans.

Well, at least get it right. I have never disrespected Chiefs fans UNTIL they come at me with hostility. So if they expect me to just take it and smile because it is "in their house"? They can surely go shove a spiked club up their smug ass.

Just because you may have had poor conversations with a SF fan here or there and months ago? Holding onto that? and blaming ALL 49ers fans for that? is weak-sauce and irrational.

Men don't hold pussy grudges like that.

Think about it.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by WayneBowe

Have a look at the fun I had this morning.

It's interesting that you chose to use what was BY FAR Cassel's best season for your comparison. Those who were predicting that Alex Smith would be another Matt Cassel were not predicting a passer rating in the 90s with a 27-7 ratio of touchdowns to interceptions.

How about comparing Smith's season to the seasons where Cassel was the worst starting quarterback in the NFL? Wouldn't that be a better indication of whether or not Alex Smith is exceeding the expectations of the people who blasted the trade?

[Marcellus]

Without digging through the thread where is a link to the story Reid told Smith he wouldn't be a good QB unless he throws downfield more?

[TimeForWasp]

Even if the chiefs lose in the playoffs. They don't suck.
So there is that.

[warrior]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I feel constrained to say, that that is a vastly skewed sense of the 'sides' at issue.

I too root for the team, only I am infinitely more patient and confident regarding Alex's role in the team.

To my view, there is a lot larger contingent than you suggest that have been consistently and incessantly miserable that this team has not been an arena ball gun-slinging choco-penis swinging circus regardless of how well the team overall fared. Control the lines, do your job TO A MAN, and be clutch when clutch is what is required is what I expect, and this team has excelled in these aims for much of the season. When the offense was in disarrary there were numerous reasons, but they never cost us the W. When the defense was in disarray is bit us hard and decisively, costing us the W thrice consecutively. The offense have improved week by week, the defense has righted itself of recent, and the future remains unwritten.

Through it all, I have never gotten the sense that some have cemented from the instant he was signed, . . . that Alex Smith will prove our inescapable doom. To the contrary, I remain optimistic, that is specifically presently unproven but worthy of hopeful expectation, that he will prove himself as solid as we've ever the right to expect.

Nice post Baby Lee / pretty close to how I feel

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Well, at least get it right. I have never disrespected Chiefs fans UNTIL they come at me with hostility. So if they expect me to just take it and smile because it is "in their house"? They can surely go shove a spiked club up their smug ass.

Just because you may have had poor conversations with a SF fan here or there and months ago? Holding onto that? and blaming ALL 49ers fans for that? is weak-sauce and irrational.

Men don't hold pussy grudges like that.

Think about it.

**** you. Nobody gives 1 good goddamn what you think, moron. You're problem #1.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Without digging through the thread where is a link to the story Reid told Smith he wouldn't be a good QB unless he throws downfield more?

Without digging for it, here's an article from BEFORE THE SEASON when Reid said Smith needs to take more chances downfield.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...163218044.html

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I can't speak for OTWP, but for me, this is now 100% about the 49er fans.

Originally Posted by htismaqe

**** you. Nobody gives 1 good goddamn what you think, moron. You're problem #1.

uh, like contradiction and stuff, stupid. If you didn't give 1 good goddamn, you wouldn't be so butthurt angry about the 49ers fans.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

uh, like contradiction and stuff, stupid. If you didn't give 1 good goddamn, you wouldn't be so butthurt angry about the 49ers fans.