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duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Three7s · 06-19-2013, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge

Not sure why all the hate on Moose. The dude shows more competitive fire than most on the team. I'm sure he's much more disappointed in himself then any of the fans are. I don't recall him saying any shit that would warrant fans turning on him. You can see in his at bats that he's trying to make adjustments in his swing. Now taking a look at someone like Frenchy last year, when performing poorly, he looked to make NO adjustments and was reportedly in on Seitzer getting let go. I can hate on that. Should Moose have been sent down? Most likely. But that's up to management, not a call that he makes. Dude looks like he's been beatdown from this. I really hope it changes

Oh I don't know, maybe because he sucks shit? Defending Mouse is like defending Cassel. It'll never end well at this point.

**SAUTO** · 06-19-2013, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s

Oh I don't know, maybe because he sucks shit? Defending Mouse is like defending Cassel. It'll never end well at this point.

great analogy
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**lewdog** · 06-20-2013, 07:04 PM

If even we could have a poor man's slugger like Mark Reynolds. Slug .450, .220 average but consistent 30-35 homers. Even that would be a significant upgrade in the middle of our lineup.

Deberg_1990 · 06-20-2013, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog

If even we could have a poor man's slugger like Mark Reynolds. Slug .450, .220 average but consistent 30-35 homers. Even that would be a significant upgrade in the middle of our lineup.

Yes this.

Where is this years Jermaine Dye, Mike Sweeney (99-01), Jeff King, Dean Palmer, Gary Gaetti or Danny Tartabull??

stonedstooge · 06-20-2013, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s

Oh I don't know, maybe because he sucks shit? Defending Mouse is like defending Cassel. It'll never end well at this point.

Cassel bragged about his performance. I've never heard Moose do that

Chiefspants · 06-20-2013, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Yes this.

Where is this years Jermaine Dye, Mike Sweeney (99-01), Jeff King, Dean Palmer, Gary Gaetti or Danny Tartabull??

Or last year's Billy Butler.

Mama Hip Rockets · 06-20-2013, 08:31 PM

GIVE US BOB HAMELIN, DAMMIT.

WhawhaWhat · 06-20-2013, 09:04 PM

Danny Duffy had another tough night.

4.2 IP, 4 ER, 5 H, 4 BBs, 5 Ks

Prison Bitch · 06-20-2013, 10:34 PM

Even the garbage Padres are 36-36. We are worse than them

duncan_idaho · 06-21-2013, 08:11 AM

Royals sign Manaea this morning, according to Jim Callis of Baseball America. He's reporting a $3.55 million signing bonus.

Basically, the success of this draft hinges on Manaea getting healthy and returning to the form that had him looking like a top 5 lock and possible No. 1 overall pick entering the college season.

Oh, and Dozier debuted last night with Idaho Falls... 2/4 with a RBI. I'd like to see him dominate there and get to Burlington in the next month or so, so they can get him moving through the system more quickly next season. He played 3B ... still hoping they give him a shot at 2B.

siberian khatru · 06-21-2013, 08:40 AM

This has been posted at other Royals sites, thought it might as well go here, too. (CAUTION: Those with high blood pressure or at risk of hypertension should not read it.)

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...oor-walk-rate/

WhawhaWhat · 06-21-2013, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

This has been posted at other Royals sites, thought it might as well go here, too. (CAUTION: Those with high blood pressure or at risk of hypertension should not read it.)

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...oor-walk-rate/

First thing I thought of while reading that was posted in the first comment in the story. The A's play in a big ballpark and walk all the time. The reason pitchers have no problem attacking the zone is because the hitters are ****ing terrible. That is why they don't fear attacking the zone and worry about giving up HRs.

Deberg_1990 · 06-21-2013, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

This has been posted at other Royals sites, thought it might as well go here, too. (CAUTION: Those with high blood pressure or at risk of hypertension should not read it.)

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...oor-walk-rate/

I pray this was just "media talk" but if not, the Royals will never win anything with this dufus in charge.
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Deberg_1990 · 06-21-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Royals sign Manaea this morning, according to Jim Callis of Baseball America. He's reporting a $3.55 million signing bonus.

Basically, the success of this draft hinges on Manaea getting healthy and returning to the form that had him looking like a top 5 lock and possible No. 1 overall pick entering the college season.

Oh, and Dozier debuted last night with Idaho Falls... 2/4 with a RBI. I'd like to see him dominate there and get to Burlington in the next month or so, so they can get him moving through the system more quickly next season. He played 3B ... still hoping they give him a shot at 2B.

Whats your current take on Moose? Do you think he will ever play up to potential and become a 30+ 100 RBI guy? Or should the Royals be looking at alternatives?
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siberian khatru · 06-21-2013, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I pray this was just "media talk" but if not, the Royals will never win anything with this dufus in charge.
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Yes. If this is spin, it's merely insulting.

But if it represents their philosophy, we're fooked.

Based on results, I fear it's the latter.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-89692	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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