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Sure. A friend of mine at a national publication planned to do an article on Bowe before the 2010 Pro Bowl. It didn't happen, but he thought I'd like the research data.
The stats are all straight from the NFL, the comparisions and such were his. Quote:
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But had I known the Bowe derangement crew was going to seize on this as though disproving it would somehow magically validate their idea that Bowe's an elite receiver, I would have tipped you off to this little nugget: it's ****ing irrelevant. Who gives a shit? I just mentioned it as an example of how useless these stats are. It doesn't prove or disprove anything about Bowe. What are you guys even doing? Quick, figure up what his stats would be in an alternate reality! Quick, try to disprove something totally meaningless about what the score was in 2007! Holy shit. Has Bowe been in the league for five years? Yes. Has he only been great for one of those years? Yes. Then he's not elite, is he? No. It doesn't work that way. You guys are working yourselves up into a needless tizzy and it's a complete waste of time. Bowe's very good. He's not elite. And he shouldn't have to be for Pioli to pay him. He's one of the two best offensive players we have. Pay the man. You can bury Pioli based on reality. You don't have to create a fantasy to manufacture outrage for your circle jerk. For ****'s sake over here. And speaking of circle jerks, I'll thank you to stop talking about my dick while I'm not here. Bunch of weirdos. |
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07-18-2012, 07:07 AM | #606 |
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Basically in a nut shell. If Bowe was on a team with a good QB his #'s would increase.
I don't know if that would be a dramatic increase, being that Cassel always locks onto Bowe for starters. With a good QB, one that went through his reads, would probably spread the ball out a little better (much better actually), instead of locking onto Bowe and then checking down to a RB when Bowe's not open.
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I guess I'm about 600 posts late to chime in with my opinion but I think Bowe is right there underneath the real elite WRs in this league. There are guys like Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Roddy White - those guys are hands down in a league of their own. Then I think Bowe fits in just underneath them. Where guys like Welker and Jennings prosper more due to the system they're in with the QBs they have, Bowe prospers less due to the system he's been in with the QBs he's had.
I mean, not only has he had just awful QBs his ENTIRE time with the Chiefs, but the offensive systems, or lack thereof, that he's been apart of is staggering. As you all well know, our offense has been a ****ing TRAINWRECK for years now. Since Herm was hired basically. Aside from one season when Charlie Weis was here, it's been awful. Even with the Weis season, our passing offense wasn't exactly the Packers or the Patriots. It was the running game that benefited mostly from that system. All of that said, Bowe has put up ****ing incredible numbers ANYWAY. The man deserves to get paid to remain a part of this team. How much money? I don't know, but he deserves a big pay day. |
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If your team is 10 points behind with 4 minutes to play, then passing becomes a necessity. If your team is 10 points behind in the second quarter, then there really isn't any urgency to pass the ball.
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When you look at the numbers that have been posted, Bowe appears to be in the same class. If Bowe was catching passes from from Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers, he might be viewed as top 3 in the NFL.
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That's about what I'd expect though. Tier 1 1a. Fitzgerald 1b. Megatron 2. Andre Johnson Tier 2 Bowe Welker Marshall White I've only actually heard speculation as to what Bowe's asking price is, but he's obviously extra valuable to this team. I say pay the man. |
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Just because he's extra valuable to this team doesn't mean you give into his demands and pay him the same as players who are better. If Bowe is asking for Fitzgerald money then Pioli is playing this the right way. Locking him down with the franchise tag for his prime years while paying him less.
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