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Old 02-03-2012, 11:32 PM  
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Old 02-04-2012, 03:21 PM   #616
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I agree Orton isn't a Brady, but do you guys think that with a full season of Orton, the Chiefs still miss the playoffs?
The playoffs aren't really the goal anymore. Heck, we can probably make the playoffs again with Matt Cassel if everyone plays well and stay healthy like in 2010. Ask yourself whether we can win in the playoffs with Orton.

I don't think Orton has led anyone to the playoffs either. Orton, in many ways, is just a different pig with different lipstick on him. Initially we're happy that it's just not Cassel, then reality hits...
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Old 02-04-2012, 03:22 PM   #617
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Also I just don't see Cassel winning a legit competition.

Call me crazy, but I think our "Cassel days are over".
Nope.

Just checked the roster at kcchiefs.com

He's still there...
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Old 02-04-2012, 03:23 PM   #618
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Also I just don't see Cassel winning a legit competition.

Call me crazy, but I think our "Cassel days are over".
What would drive me crazy is the Chiefs bringing in someone that Cassel could beat out like a jason Campbell, it looks like they tried but really the fix was in.
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Old 02-04-2012, 03:24 PM   #619
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What would drive me crazy is the Chiefs bringing in someone that Cassel could beat out like a jason Campbell, it looks like they tried but really the fix was in.
This is my prediction.

Except it will be Henne or Moore.
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Oh he will be on the roster, I just don't see him being the starter.


He has never ever gotten good reviews from looking good in practice. He has essentially been spoon fed this starting role for 3 years and the fans are finally finally starting to sour on it.

After they seen what Orton did with the same offense (I realize he didn't light the scoreboard up, but just the eye test it was tons different) I don't see the front office being able to run him out there.
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This is my prediction.

Except it will be Henne or Moore.
HOnestly I don't think he can beat out either of those guys.
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What would drive me crazy is the Chiefs bringing in someone that Cassel could beat out like a jason Campbell, it looks like they tried but really the fix was in.
Let's say Manning and Flynn are off the table, and you can't trade for Luck or RG3. Who out there would fit the bill to legitimately replace Cassel as a frontrunner? You've got guys like Garrard, Orton, Campbell, Henne, and Vince Young floating out there who have started before. I don't see many real upgrades, just some guys who might be at a similar level to Cassel, if not worse. That's why, sadly, whoever you sign is likely going to be in a legitimate QB battle with Cassel with a legit chance to lose that battle.

Not sure if there are any QB's out there worth trading for...
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Old 02-04-2012, 03:33 PM   #623
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This is my prediction.

Except it will be Henne or Moore.
Henne won't but Moore could maybe beat out Cassel in an honest competition. I said HONEST.
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Qb's like Cassel are coach killers. Romeo experienced that first hand in Cleveland. There is no way he is gonna run the guy out there again.


I think they make a push for Orton.
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Henne won't but Moore could maybe beat out Cassel in an honest competition. I said HONEST.
Moore isn't a free agent, unless the Dolphins plan on cutting him...
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Moore isn't a free agent, unless the Dolphins plan on cutting him...
Well, then they'll probably hold on to him.
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The Kansas City Chiefs’ long journey for a new offensive coordinator took them back to one of the first names that popped up for the job.


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ESPN’s Adam Schefter is reporting the Chiefs will hire Brian Daboll as coordinator of the potentially dangerous offense. Daboll, 36, was a finalist along with Kansas City quarterbacks coach Jim Zorn and Al Saunders, a former Kansas City offensive coordinator who was just replaced in Oakland.

Daboll emerged as an early candidate. He continues the New England Way in Kansas City. He was in New England with Kansas City general manger Scott Pioli and Kansas City coach Romeo Crennel during the last decade.

There were reports last month that the Chiefs were looking for a dynamic offensive coordinator and Schefter reported that former Green Bay head coach Mike Sherman, who ended up as the Dolphins’ offensive coordinator, was on the Chiefs' radar. While Daboll is considered a promising young coach, it would be inaccurate to describe his previous experience as an NFL offensive coordinator as dynamic.

He was the Browns’ offensive coordinator from 2009-2010 and he was Miami’s offensive coordinator in 2011. Those offenses struggled. However, Miami’s offense made strides in the second half of last season and running back Reggie Bush had his best NFL season under Daboll’s guidance.

Daboll has a reputation for being a hard-edged coach. He was particularly hard on Cleveland quarterback Colt McCoy when he was a rookie in 2010.

Daboll’s hiring may be a good sign for Kansas City quarterback Matt Cassel. They worked together for two years in New England. Both Pioli and Crennel said this week that Cassel will face competition. It is not known yet if the team will bring in someone to legitimately push Cassel or not.

Daboll is inheriting a potentially strong offense. The team will get star running back Jamaal Charles back after he blew out his knee in Week 2. Promising tight end Tony Moeaki will be back after missing the entire season with a knee injury. The passing game has a chance to be very good, particularly if free agent Dwayne Bowe returns. So, there are plenty of pieces for Daboll to work with.

It will be interesting to see if Zorn stays or if the Chiefs bring in a new quarterbacks coach. The Kansas City Star reported that Zorn may quit if he didn’t get the promotion.

UPDATE: NFL.com reported Saturday that Zorn will stay in Kansas City unless the Steelers approach him for their offensive coordinator job. This decision should serve the Chiefs well. Zorn had a good relationship with the quarterbacks last year and keeping him will ensure continuity.
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The Kansas City Chiefs’ long journey for a new offensive coordinator took them back to one of the first names that popped up for the job.


Daboll
ESPN’s Adam Schefter is reporting the Chiefs will hire Brian Daboll as coordinator of the potentially dangerous offense. Daboll, 36, was a finalist along with Kansas City quarterbacks coach Jim Zorn and Al Saunders, a former Kansas City offensive coordinator who was just replaced in Oakland.

Daboll emerged as an early candidate. He continues the New England Way in Kansas City.
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I don't see how Henne would even be an option
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