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Old 10-14-2013, 09:02 AM  
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Costas: Redskins 'an insult, a slur'
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/b...edskins-101313
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Old 06-12-2014, 06:14 AM   #616
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Yep time to change this stupid name!


I find it interesting that commercial identified the Lakota as the Sioux, because that's a derogatory term amongst the Lakota tribe.
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Old 06-12-2014, 06:15 AM   #617
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So, is Redskins as bad as the N word?
That's like saying stealing should be legal because it's not manslaughter
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Old 06-12-2014, 06:19 AM   #618
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So, is Redskins as bad as the N word?
Are you asking so you can complete your racial slur chart?
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Old 06-12-2014, 06:21 AM   #619
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Are you asking so you can complete your racial slur chart?
Yes, Cracker.
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Old 06-12-2014, 06:32 AM   #620
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Yes, Cracker.
I am sure it's a great teaching tool for your kids.
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Old 06-12-2014, 06:47 AM   #621
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I am sure it's a great teaching tool for your kids.
It is.

I'm grooming him to be Grand Wizard.
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Old 06-12-2014, 06:54 AM   #622
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My apologies, my memory of the poll was a bit clouded, with that said:
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Indian activist Suzan Shown Harjo, who has filed a lawsuit seeking to strip the “Redskins” trademark from the football team, said the [National Annenberg Election Survey] neglected to ask some crucial questions.

“Are you a tribal person? What is your nation? What is your tribe? Would you say you are culturally or socially or politically native?” Harjo asked. Those without such connections cannot represent native opinions, she said.
So, a chick with the name "Suzan" can represent "Indian Nation" AND can question/decide which other Indians can speak-up as "an Indian" about the affairs of Indians? I find that curious!

Suzan, the gatekeeper of Indian heritage! Seems like the squaws have evolved a bit over time!

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Old 06-12-2014, 06:56 AM   #623
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It's a University study. No bias there. At all...


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Old 06-12-2014, 06:57 AM   #624
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Keep the name and change the logo. Problem solved.


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Old 06-12-2014, 06:58 AM   #625
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I think it's funny that, with Chiefspants being the only exception, everyone the past couple of days who is pro-name-change has thrown up one or maybe two posts before the Wall of Venom was too much for them. Congratulations, haters. You dun drove 'em off.

Oh, also? It's a slur. It wasn't 80 years ago, but it is now. Times change; it happens. Whether you like it or not, and whether you agree with it or understand it or not, in a few years the name is going to change - my guess is either through NFL directive, or because the copyright gets rescinded. It's going to cost rich people money, so they'll fight it, but social change will win out, as it always does. Fortunately, this probably won't actually screw your own personal life up much at all, so your best move is to shrug and accept it and move on. Asking that you shrug and accept that Native Americans are not only people but Americans as well is probably too much to ask, and no one is going to make you study up on the Iroquois League or undergo sensitivity training, so trust me. Let it go. You'll be a lot happier.

You can, of course, keep railing about it instead if you like, and then when you're 80 or 90 and one of your grandchildren hears you use the term, they'll be shocked and appalled and apologize all over the place, just like people do now when some cranky old centenarian in their party belts out the N word in the middle of a Waffle House. "Sorry about Grandpa," their embarrassed family says to the waitress. "He's from a different time. People talked that way all the time back then, back before the Union Army swept through. He doesn't mean it."

It's changing, people. Get used to it.
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Old 06-12-2014, 07:00 AM   #626
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I find it interesting that commercial identified the Lakota as the Sioux, because that's a derogatory term amongst the Lakota tribe.
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Old 06-12-2014, 07:03 AM   #627
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I find it interesting that commercial identified the Lakota as the Sioux, because that's a derogatory term amongst the Lakota tribe.
That's not even true. The term did actually come from Indians.
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Indians came up with the term redskin. It was never derogatory. Neither was pale skin.

Oklahoma is Choctaw for red skinned people. Wait till Suzan finds out.
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It's racist, always has been. The time for it to go was long ago. I'll never understand the emotional connection to the name for some nor the detachment from the issue for others. I'm anything but liberal, but the name is offensive to tribal members and reflects nothing good. Its the equivalent of using the N word to describe a person of color. There is no place for it. Of course, nothing in the course of history has done much to give a **** about them anyhow so why start now, right?
Are you a tribal person?

What is your nation?

What is your tribe?

Would you say you are culturally or socially or politically native?
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I already admitted that I was wrong about the old study's methodology, but here's a simple question.

Did the old study confirm tribal status or not?

Easy answer, it didn't. Now go ahead and continue weeping about the loss of your beloved Redskins and the further deterioration of "good ol' days America'" and the Golden Generation, I'm done here.
Why is that important, other than the fact that you like the results of one poll but not the other?
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