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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?
Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

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Old 07-18-2012, 02:20 PM   #631
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Oh my god, guys.

Larry Fitzgerald put up 54.6 percent of his numbers as a rookie when behind.

The next year, it was 70.4 percent!

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Last year Fitzgerald had 640 yards when "winning or tied." 45.3%

Bowe was (see above) 0.1% different.
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Last year Fitzgerald had 640 yards when "winning or tied." 45.3%

Bowe was (see above) 0.1% different.
Last year, Fitz didn't drop a TD he should have had.
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Last year, Fitz didn't drop a TD he should have had.


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Last year, Fitz didn't drop a TD he should have had.
This isn't a discussion about drops.

If you want to bring up drops, I can cite Roddy White, who got paid.

And FYI, that TD Bowe dropped, he made up for it with a game-tying TD. And then he put us in position to win the game on the last play of regulation, and Dick Seymour happened.
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I can't help that you're a moron.
So "he means as much to this team as they do to theirs, but he's not as good so you pay him equal amounts of money" makes sense?

Sorry. It doesn't.

You pay what he's worth. He's not worth what Fitzgerald is worth.

If Arizona called up and offered a straight trade of Fitzgerald for Bowe, what do you do?
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So "he means as much to this team as they do to theirs, but he's not as good so you pay him equal amounts of money" makes sense?

Sorry. It doesn't.

You pay what he's worth. He's not worth what Fitzgerald is worth.

If Arizona called up and offered a straight trade of Fitzgerald for Bowe, what do you do?
Okay, so how much guaranteed money is he worth?
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This isn't a discussion about drops.

If you want to bring up drops, I can cite Roddy White, who got paid.

And FYI, that TD Bowe dropped, he made up for it with a game-tying TD. And then he put us in position to win the game on the last play of regulation, and Dick Seymour happened.
Okay. Have you ever heard football players discuss what "momentum" does for football teams?
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And then he put us in position to win the game on the last play of regulation, and Dick Seymour happened.
GIF'd, for the hell of it. 26-yard catch with the clock winding down. Clutch as ****, son. Stanford Routt, get the **** off me.

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