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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?
Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

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Old 07-18-2012, 02:53 PM   #646
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Okay. Have you ever heard football players discuss what "momentum" does for football teams?
We had ALL the momentum after:

Bowe had 3 huge catches on the game-tying TD drive.

Bowe had a 26-yard catch to set us up for a game-winning FG.

Then Seymour blocked a kick, and then our defense choked.

Whee! ALL BOWE'S FAULT.
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Old 07-18-2012, 03:00 PM   #648
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It doesn't change the fact Bowe is likely going to be playing elsewhere for his foolishness.

Again, I think Bowe is a heluva football player. He has made some big plays and dazzled. He's worth keeping, but I would invite competition because of his choke. Not one play. Choke. As in he has a pattern of choking. If he cleans that mess up, we are good to go imo.
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Okay, so how much guaranteed money is he worth?
I've already said that I would cap his guaranteed money at $40M.

The Chiefs hold the cards. Bowe is 27, going to be 28 for the season. He's only got so many opportunities to get that big contract he is looking for. He's not worth what he appears to be asking so the Chiefs can kick back, tag him for 2 years, pay him 20M and then he can go out and try to get that big contract he is looking for at 30M. I believe VJ just got 26M guaranteed at 29. So good luck on your endeavors, Bowe.
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It doesn't change the fact Bowe is likely going to be playing elsewhere for his foolishness.

Again, I think Bowe is a heluva football player. He has made some big plays and dazzled. He's worth keeping, but I would invite competition because of his choke. Not one play. Choke. As in he has a pattern of choking. If he cleans that mess up, we are good to go imo.
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Last year, Fitz didn't drop a TD he should have had.
How do you know this? Did you watch every play of every Cardinal game?

I've seen Andre Johnson drop a pass that deflected into a defender's arms for the game clinching pick. Guess he sucks too.
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It doesn't change the fact Bowe is likely going to be playing elsewhere for his foolishness.

Again, I think Bowe is a heluva football player. He has made some big plays and dazzled. He's worth keeping, but I would invite competition because of his choke. Not one play. Choke. As in he has a pattern of choking. If he cleans that mess up, we are good to go imo.
You keeping talking about chokes, yet you can only name 3 or 4 examples, 2 of which are questionable at best, in 75 games.
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So, is it decided that Bowe is around the sixth best WR in the league?

In the end, Bowe will play one more year in KC then most likely go elsewhere.
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