***Official 2016 STL Cardinals Thread***

[BigRedChief]

• 2011 World Series Championship
• 2012 NLCS. One win from another WS appearance.
• 2013 World Series. Two wins from another World Series Championship
• 2014 NLCS. Three wins from another WS appearance
• 2015 Central Division title. Won 100 games. Lost in the NLDS.
• Made the postseason 11 times in the last 15 seasons.
• 67 post season wins since 2004. 24+ wins more than any other team.

SI article on our off season, Gives us a "A". ??:
http://www.si.com/mlb/2016/02/12/win...ouis-cardinals

2015 III thread:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=295296
2015 II thread:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=293412
2015 I thread:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=289085

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by BDj23

Here it comes.....

Oh trips up but Rosie looks dominant again. Had to get that one for sure.

Helluva catch by Grichuk.

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by jd1020

It does. He's my least favorite player on the Cubs. I can't recall the last time I saw him use his body to block a ball in the dirt, 90% of the time he just tries to pick it like hes a ****ing first baseman and he's complete dog shit throwing guys out trying to steal.

Add to that, he is your second highest paid position player. Granted, that's mainly because there are a lot of cost controlled players on the roster but that still stuck out. 14 million this year.

Yadi would get lazy every once in a while with blocking balls but it was more about overconfidence. Once one got past him, he would get the pads down to make sure it didn't happen again.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by jd1020

It does. He's my least favorite player on the Cubs. I can't recall the last time I saw him use his body to block a ball in the dirt, 90% of the time he just tries to pick it like hes a ****ing first baseman and he's complete dog shit throwing guys out trying to steal.

I would play Miguel Montero at first base before I'd play Matt Adams.

Nobody hates anybody as much as Cardinals fans hate Matt Adams.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Swanman

Add to that, he is your second highest paid position player. Granted, that's mainly because there are a lot of cost controlled players on the roster but that still stuck out. 14 million this year.

Yadi would get lazy every once in a while with blocking balls but it was more about overconfidence. Once one got past him, he would get the pads down to make sure it didn't happen again.

I will be pretty disappointed if Montero is still on the roster next season. There were whispers of him being trade bait this offseason and platooning Ross and Schwarber with Ross catching Arrieta, Lester, and Lackey.

Willson Contreras is probably ready to be in the MLB now and he'll likely be a September call up. He's just tearing the cover off the ball every where he goes right now and he actually has an arm to throw guys out. Trade Montero and make Contreras the starting catcher for 2017 with Schwarber giving him a breather every now and then. And Maddon likes 3 catchers, apparently, so go out and grab some cheap defensive vet like Saltalamacchia or some shit for depth.

If it all ends with Montero the **** off the team I'll be happy. I'm tired of him being shitty behind the plate and acting like he's ****ing Mike Piazza with the bat. The only thing he excels in is "pitch framing" and that comes into play like maybe 2 calls a game? Who ****ing cares?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Nobody hates anybody as much as Cardinals fans hate Matt Adams.

I think if he would have lost some weight that the fans might have been more forgiving. He's been here for 3 years and he still is a fat ****.

Your an athlete. Try to make your body better equipped to do your job. Fat ****s don't last in sports except in Sumo wrestling. I'm a fat ****. But, I'm no longer getting paid to be an athlete. People don't cheer for the team I'm playing on.

The way I see it is that it's a slap in the face to the fans that he doesn't lose the weight. He doesn't even hit home runs. A fat **** .220 singles hitter. What is there not to like?

Matheny is moving up my chart pretty damn fast though. A double steal with no outs leading with Fat Adams and a free swinger at the plate?

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I think if he would have lost some weight that the fans might have been more forgiving. He's been here for 3 years and he still is a fat ****.

Your an athlete. Try to make your body better equipped to do your job. Fat ****s don't last in sports except in Sumo wrestling. I'm a fat ****. But, I'm no longer getting paid to be an athlete. People don't cheer for the team I'm playing on.

The way I see it is that it's a slap in the face to the fans that he doesn't lose the weight. He doesn't even hit home runs. A fat **** .220 singles hitter. What is there not to like?

Matheny is moving up my chart pretty damn fast though. A double steal with no outs leading with Fat Adams and a free swinger at the plate?

The only exception might be that there have been some rotund pitchers through the years that can make it work (guys like David Wells). But if you are a position player, get in shape or at least make an effort. If Fatt loses 20-30 lbs, the fans would love him to death for making the effort. It would be a great redemption story. But instead he just ate Twinkies and flipped the double bird to the team and the fanbase. And yet WLR still treats him as a favored son. I guess Jeebus likes Twinkies.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by Swanman

The only exception might be that there have been some rotund pitchers through the years that can make it work (guys like David Wells). But if you are a position player, get in shape or at least make an effort. If Fatt loses 20-30 lbs, the fans would love him to death for making the effort. It would be a great redemption story. But instead he just ate Twinkies and flipped the double bird to the team and the fanbase. And yet WLR still treats him as a favored son. I guess Jeebus likes Twinkies.

John Kruk and Tony Gwynn were both fatties but they were great hitters. Steve Balboni, Bob Horner were pretty good too but Adams just eats cock

[VAChief]

Not exactly a vote of confidence, but I would bet Adams ends up helping us more this year than Moss. He isn't the highest on my list to loathe, but with Kosma and few from last year gone he has certainly moved up the queue.

[Jewish Rabbi]

Originally Posted by VAChief

Not exactly a vote of confidence, but I would bet Adams ends up helping us more this year than Moss. He isn't the highest on my list to loathe, but with Kosma and few from last year gone he has certainly moved up the queue.

Moss could Hancock himself tomorrow and he's already provided more than Adams will.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

Moss could Hancock himself tomorrow and he's already provided more than Adams will.

Exactly.

Moss has already done more to contribute this year than Adams will do for the remainder of his Cardinal career. We can only hope that period isn't terribly long.

I'm not sure how Adams went from being a guy that could drive multiple different kinds of pitches in the high minors to being a guess hitter with an elongated swing and no power. It's virtually impossible to become as awful as he's become with his minor league track record.

He was a young lefthanded slugger with some pretty nice advanced skills. Now he is quite possibly the most worthless player since....well Tony Cruz and Pete Kozma.

I'm not sure with Mike Matheny would do with himself if all 25 players on the roster actually served some purpose. I'm guessing that's why Mozeliak doesn't fight over the last 2 roster spots - the dumb bastard won't use them anyway.

[jd1020]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Carry on

[bdj23]

Originally Posted by jd1020

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Carry on

Nobody cares

You should make a Cubs thread

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by BDj23

Nobody cares

You should make a Cubs thread

[POND_OF_RED]

Has there ever been a more dominant stretch of pitching than the one Arrieta is on right now? It's absolutely incredible.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

Has there ever been a more dominant stretch of pitching than the one Arrieta is on right now? It's absolutely incredible.

Don't believe so. I think Gibson's 1968 season with a 1.12 ERA comes close but Arrieta's got 24 consecutive quality starts right now and since his last loss, which was Hamels' no hitter, he's got something like a .80 ERA and the Cubs are 16-0 or some shit in his starts. Oh, and 2 no hitters in 11 games, which is the 3rd shortest span between no-hitters in MLB history.