How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Is it your opinion that V-Jax is better than Bowe?

It's my opinion that V-Jax got less than the total amount of what Bowe appears to be asking at a year younger than Bowe would be a FA, if you added 2 years worth of franchised tag money + the 26M V-Jax got.

The Chiefs are in the drivers seat. Not Bowe.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by jd1020

It's my opinion that V-Jax got less than the total amount of what Bowe appears to be asking at a year younger than Bowe would be a FA, if you added 2 years worth of franchised tag money + the 26M V-Jax got.

The Chiefs are in the drivers seat. Not Bowe.

Answer the question.

[Bowser]

There has actually been decent debate in this thread, but GoChiefs has smashed it.


I really would like to know what Bowe asked, and what the Chiefs offered. Once upon a time, someone said they had the parameters of the deal agreed upon, but it was the guaranteed money that Bowe balked at. Would love to know what that number was.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Dave

Answer the question.

I believe I did. He asked for my opinion and I gave it, dumbass.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by jd1020

I believe I did. He asked for my opinion and I gave it, dumbass.

So, VJ is better than Bowe?

[milkman]

Originally Posted by jd1020

I believe I did. He asked for my opinion and I gave it, dumbass.

No, you didn't.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Dave

Answer the question.

Please don't hand out infractions because you disagree with someone. kthxbye.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by jd1020

It's my opinion that V-Jax got less than the total amount of what Bowe appears to be asking at a year younger than Bowe would be a FA, if you added 2 years worth of franchised tag money + the 26M V-Jax got.

The Chiefs are in the drivers seat. Not Bowe.

You're absolutely correct. The Chiefs really are in the driver's seat with Bowe's contract. They can give or not give as they see fit, and they're looking cheap and foolish going the route they've gone with it.

Now, is V-Jax better than Bowe?

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Dave

So, VJ is better than Bowe?

God you're stupid.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Please don't hand out infractions because you disagree with someone. kthxbye.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by PGM

How do you know this? Did you watch every play of every Cardinal game?

I've seen Andre Johnson drop a pass that deflected into a defender's arms for the game clinching pick. Guess he sucks too.

Ohhhh Mr. wideout expert?????????

[Messier]

Originally Posted by Bowser

There has actually been decent debate in this thread, but GoChiefs has smashed it.


I really would like to know what Bowe asked, and what the Chiefs offered. Once upon a time, someone said they had the parameters of the deal agreed upon, but it was the guaranteed money that Bowe balked at. Would love to know what that number was.

Yes, he usually wins the internet.

Life on the other hand....

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by SNR

People can call GoChiefs a troll all they want, but the fact remains that the guy can own anybody in a fight using statistics.

**** the haters. GoChiefs can talk football better than all of them.

*walks away from thread*

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by jd1020

God you're stupid.

I'm a Rhodes Scholar compared to your dumbass.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Bowser

You're absolutely correct. The Chiefs really are in the driver's seat with Bowe's contract. They can give or not give as they see fit, and they're looking cheap and foolish going the route they've gone with it.

Now, is V-Jax better than Bowe?

I'd take Bowe over V-Jax, in present time. However we're talking about 2 years down the road. Bowe will be 1 year older than V-Jax, when he got his contract, and you'll have 2 more years of Bowe to look at it. Will he put up his usual numbers or will he regress, whether it be because of age or he just doesn't want to play for the team because of contract issues? Either way it was smart that the Chiefs didn't offer him a Fitzgerald contract.