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05-21-2013, 08:32 AM | #6901 |
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National Titles Since 1990:
Big 12 Basketball: 1 Football: 2 Movers Basketball: 3 Football: 4
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Even Texas A&M managed a couple titles in their first year of SEC competition.
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You can definitely see an attempt by MU to return when Jay Nixon is done being governor however at that point I'm not sure the Big 12 will be interested. |
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What was that grinding sound? Did you forget to push the clutch before shifting gears on your losing argument?
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And the Big 12, in their infinite wisdom, turned them down because they needed more representation in Texas and West Virginia. I'm sure that will look smart any minute now.
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Not only that but the Big 12 is doing it with less teams. It was actually an easier argument to win than I thought. |
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05-21-2013, 08:46 AM | #6910 |
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So you're going back 100+ years for stats that show what programs are better today? That's about as effective as citing Kevin Kietzman and Jack Harry.
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05-21-2013, 08:56 AM | #6912 |
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I've never understood why Missou fans talk conference smack all the time instead of talking about their own teams. Ha ha ha, actually I do.
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I thought I was referring to a conference today, not 100 years ago. Sorry about that. I guess it explains the confusion.
I'm pretty sure we can all agree that a conference with those teams would be a tougher conference than the Big 12. (Again, I'm talking about contemporary times, not retroactively back to what they were during the Woodrow Wilson administration.)
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Louisville and Syracuse are great athletic programs and I would love to have them apart of a conference if we were simply "picking teams" as of today. Pitt, MU, Utah, Rutgers and Maryland don't do anything for me. Nebraska and Colorado have some historical significance but not exactly trending upwards nowadays. |
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The flagship football program in the Big 12 is Oklahoma, and they just got deep-dicked by aTm. The flagship basketball program in the Big 12 is Kansas, and they have been knocked out of final fours twice in the recent past by teams on that list (who won the championship). In the past 11 years, three teams on that list have won basketball titles. There is simply no comparison that it would be a better basketball conference. It's not even close. Football is debatable. Texas has been down, but they are historically a strong program. Nebraska is similar in that regard, but Nebraska's modern success is much greater than that of Texas. Oklahoma has been strong, but they are in danger of no longer being an elite program. aTm has been a good but not great program in recent history, but they have the brightest near future of any team in the bunch. Louisville is clearly on the rise...very similar to Oklahoma State in that regard. Overall, I would give a slight edge to the Big 12 as a football conference today, but those movers may have more upside down the road. All in all, the Big 12 is a slightly better football conference, and the movers would be a much better basketball conference.
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