Shooting at TDKR Midnight Premiere in Aurora, CO. Multiple dead.

[Priest31kc]

At least 10 moviegoers were killed and 39 injured at a cinema in the Colorado city of Aurora in the Denver suburbs. They were attending a midnight showing of the new Batman film, The Dark Knight Rises.

The theater was packed with a lot of people, many of them young fans, at the time the shooting started, 9news reports. The violence erupted some 15 minutes after the movie started, witnesses said.

Some say that when they first heard the shooting, they thought it was some new type of special effect.

Local media reports that two gunmen were involved in the rampage. An explosive device was set off during the shooting, injuring several people.

Witnesses said the gunmen were probably wearing body armor and gas masks and used some kind of a tear gas bomb in the attack.

Some reports say police have apprehended one of the assailants while the second one is still at large.

Police have cleared people from the scene over fears that another explosive device might be on the premises.

Aurora medical services were alerted to attend to the large number of injured

http://www.rt.com/news/shooting-dark...er-aurora-654/

WOW

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Aries Walker

I will absolutely blame the media. Two of the men killed died shielding their girlfriends from bullets; the media has the power to put their pictures on the cover and tell their stories instead. They can cram Psycho Boy's story on page eleven, and I bet they would sell just as many copies.

Since they insist on feeding the beast, they can shoulder at least some of the blame.

Don't remember the specific site, but surfing today I saw a link to an article titled something like 'Grrrr, coverage of Aurora killer BAD!'

Only it was surrounded by a dozen articles covering the Aurora killer.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Not much smirking now, is there?

While I find some aspects of the law interesting, I don't think I could be an attorney that deals with conflicts. It seems like you have to yield your own ethics sometimes to be your client's advocate. While I understand why it has to be that way, I think I'd have trouble doing it.

I'd dispute 'yielded ethics' WRT legal representation.

On the broadest scale, attorneys enter representation relationships with the bedrock conviction that one's client deserves a thorough, vigorous and competent presentation of their grievances/defenses.

On a case by case basis, an overwhelmingly majority of attorneys work hard to define that is thorough, vigorous and competent without crossing the code of ethics.

There are tomes and tomes of treatises that inform attorneys of all stripes what are and aren't their ethic boundaries.

[manchambo]

Originally Posted by Toad King

Alright, which one of you got arrested? Clearly a KC jersey.



http://bangordailynews.com/2012/07/2...n/?ref=polbeat

Jesus jumped up Christ. How many guns do you need? Dudes only got two hands (and four chins).

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Toad King

Alright, which one of you got arrested? Clearly a KC jersey.



http://bangordailynews.com/2012/07/2...n/?ref=polbeat

Jesus, what a ****ing fool. Glad they stopped him before he did anything that hurt anybody, but he already did the worst damage to himself. A collection like that doesn't happen overnight. Years of acquisition, thousands of dollars spent, more than likely his primary life long interest, and now, whether he goes to jail or the nut house, he'll never see any of them again, or be allowed to own another firearm. I hope a single night of dumbassery was worth it to him. Somehow I doubt it.

[Dayze]

...and here...we...go.

http://gma.yahoo.com/james-holmes-go...opstories.html

Accused movie theater gunman James Holmes was not on drugs when he appeared dazed in court, but experts are looking for explanations for his odd behavior that included turning evidence bags on his hands into puppets after his arrest, sources told ABC News.
The loopy, seemingly unconcerned actions by the former Ph.D student accused of killing 12 people and wounding 58 is seen by some as signs of psychosis -- or that he's faking it.

Sources tell ABC News that Holmes was not on drugs or medication at the time of the hearing, but Holmes has demonstrated a pattern of bizarre behavior since his arrest outside an Aurora, Colo., movie theater last Friday.

When Holmes was arrested he told police he was the fictitious Batman villain, The Joker. When police put evidence bags over his hands to preserve traces of gunpowder residue, Holmes pretended the bags were puppets, law enforcement sources told ABC News.

Holmes has acted unfazed by his arrest, police say. He has been uncooperative since he was taken into custody, giving investigators little information, and yet disclosing his apartment was booby trapped with dozens of explosives.

His behavior in court Monday was particularly strange. Unshaven, with a shock of died orange hair, Holmes alternated between staring wide-eyed to closing his eyes and appearing to nod off.

His lawyer even had to nudge him to rise when the judge entered the courtroom. He said nothing during the proceedings, in which he was held without bond.

Some observers wondered if Holmes was on drugs or being medicated. Sources told ABC News, he was not on drugs, leading to expert theories that he may have been in the grips of "psychotic episode," exhausted from stress or simply faking it.

"I think there are two possibilities going on here," Marissa Randazzo, former chief research psychologist for the U.S. Secret Service and an expert in mass shootings, told "Good Morning America" today.

"One is that he is in the middle of a psychotic episode which is quite possible. We see him distracted at multiple points, an almost sort of 'coming to' and trying to figure out where he is and process what's going on," she said.

"The other thing that we're seeing -- and we've seen some of this behavior in the past couple months -- might suggest mania. Meaning hyperactivity, hyper energy, been possibly up and not sleeping for days. What we might be seeing here is the post effects."

But Randazzo also said there was a third possibility. He might simply be faking it.

"It's possible," she said when asked if Holmes' behavior could be all an act. "It is possible. We'll leave that open," she said, adding that most people who lie about that sort of behavior are sociopaths and "What we've heard about his history does not suggest sociopath at all."

"Let's keep that in mind that he was studying neuroscience. He was studying exactly the type of brain issues that we're going to be talking about throughout this whole case," she said.

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by Phobia

You're thinking of temporary insanity defenses. People who are full-blown insane are capable of premeditation.

It seems the insanity defense hinges on the matter of whether the accused could separate right from wrong.

[The Franchise]

Dude is faking it.

[In58men]

Originally Posted by Dayze

...and here...we...go.

http://gma.yahoo.com/james-holmes-go...opstories.html

Accused movie theater gunman James Holmes was not on drugs when he appeared dazed in court, but experts are looking for explanations for his odd behavior that included turning evidence bags on his hands into puppets after his arrest, sources told ABC News.
The loopy, seemingly unconcerned actions by the former Ph.D student accused of killing 12 people and wounding 58 is seen by some as signs of psychosis -- or that he's faking it.

Sources tell ABC News that Holmes was not on drugs or medication at the time of the hearing, but Holmes has demonstrated a pattern of bizarre behavior since his arrest outside an Aurora, Colo., movie theater last Friday.

When Holmes was arrested he told police he was the fictitious Batman villain, The Joker. When police put evidence bags over his hands to preserve traces of gunpowder residue, Holmes pretended the bags were puppets, law enforcement sources told ABC News.

Holmes has acted unfazed by his arrest, police say. He has been uncooperative since he was taken into custody, giving investigators little information, and yet disclosing his apartment was booby trapped with dozens of explosives.

His behavior in court Monday was particularly strange. Unshaven, with a shock of died orange hair, Holmes alternated between staring wide-eyed to closing his eyes and appearing to nod off.

His lawyer even had to nudge him to rise when the judge entered the courtroom. He said nothing during the proceedings, in which he was held without bond.

Some observers wondered if Holmes was on drugs or being medicated. Sources told ABC News, he was not on drugs, leading to expert theories that he may have been in the grips of "psychotic episode," exhausted from stress or simply faking it.

"I think there are two possibilities going on here," Marissa Randazzo, former chief research psychologist for the U.S. Secret Service and an expert in mass shootings, told "Good Morning America" today.

"One is that he is in the middle of a psychotic episode which is quite possible. We see him distracted at multiple points, an almost sort of 'coming to' and trying to figure out where he is and process what's going on," she said.

"The other thing that we're seeing -- and we've seen some of this behavior in the past couple months -- might suggest mania. Meaning hyperactivity, hyper energy, been possibly up and not sleeping for days. What we might be seeing here is the post effects."

But Randazzo also said there was a third possibility. He might simply be faking it.

"It's possible," she said when asked if Holmes' behavior could be all an act. "It is possible. We'll leave that open," she said, adding that most people who lie about that sort of behavior are sociopaths and "What we've heard about his history does not suggest sociopath at all."

"Let's keep that in mind that he was studying neuroscience. He was studying exactly the type of brain issues that we're going to be talking about throughout this whole case," she said.

How ****ing stupid.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Swanman

It seems the insanity defense hinges on the matter of whether the accused could separate right from wrong.

Perhaps one of our legal minds here could shed some light on whether this wiki description of the required elements for an insanity defense is accurate?

At the time of the commission of the offense, as a result of mental disease or defect, the mind of the actor was affected to such an extent that:

(a) He was unable to perceive the nature and quality of the act with which he is charged; or

(b) He was unable to tell right from wrong with reference to the particular act charged.

(2) The defense of insanity must be established by a preponderance of the evidence.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_t...#ixzz21YsRZpVA

Apparently there are two tests that can be used, the Model Penal Code test which is a modernized test and the M'Naghten test which is used by Common Law jurisdicitons. Which test is used depends on the state. Wonder which Colorado uses?

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Dayze

...and here...we...go.

http://gma.yahoo.com/james-holmes-go...opstories.html

Accused movie theater gunman James Holmes was not on drugs when he appeared dazed in court, but experts are looking for explanations for his odd behavior that included turning evidence bags on his hands into puppets after his arrest, sources told ABC News.
The loopy, seemingly unconcerned actions by the former Ph.D student accused of killing 12 people and wounding 58 is seen by some as signs of psychosis -- or that he's faking it.

Sources tell ABC News that Holmes was not on drugs or medication at the time of the hearing, but Holmes has demonstrated a pattern of bizarre behavior since his arrest outside an Aurora, Colo., movie theater last Friday.

When Holmes was arrested he told police he was the fictitious Batman villain, The Joker. When police put evidence bags over his hands to preserve traces of gunpowder residue, Holmes pretended the bags were puppets, law enforcement sources told ABC News.

Holmes has acted unfazed by his arrest, police say. He has been uncooperative since he was taken into custody, giving investigators little information, and yet disclosing his apartment was booby trapped with dozens of explosives.

His behavior in court Monday was particularly strange. Unshaven, with a shock of died orange hair, Holmes alternated between staring wide-eyed to closing his eyes and appearing to nod off.

His lawyer even had to nudge him to rise when the judge entered the courtroom. He said nothing during the proceedings, in which he was held without bond.

Some observers wondered if Holmes was on drugs or being medicated. Sources told ABC News, he was not on drugs, leading to expert theories that he may have been in the grips of "psychotic episode," exhausted from stress or simply faking it.

"I think there are two possibilities going on here," Marissa Randazzo, former chief research psychologist for the U.S. Secret Service and an expert in mass shootings, told "Good Morning America" today.

"One is that he is in the middle of a psychotic episode which is quite possible. We see him distracted at multiple points, an almost sort of 'coming to' and trying to figure out where he is and process what's going on," she said.

"The other thing that we're seeing -- and we've seen some of this behavior in the past couple months -- might suggest mania. Meaning hyperactivity, hyper energy, been possibly up and not sleeping for days. What we might be seeing here is the post effects."

But Randazzo also said there was a third possibility. He might simply be faking it.

"It's possible," she said when asked if Holmes' behavior could be all an act. "It is possible. We'll leave that open," she said, adding that most people who lie about that sort of behavior are sociopaths and "What we've heard about his history does not suggest sociopath at all."

"Let's keep that in mind that he was studying neuroscience. He was studying exactly the type of brain issues that we're going to be talking about throughout this whole case," she said.

The Judge & Jury better not be stupid enough to buy that Bullshit.

[loochy]

Someone just needs to go up to him and chop his head off

[Dayze]

then blame their actions due to mania and being hyper.

[vailpass]

I don't feel like insanity should be a defense in some cases.

My thinking has always been "ok, you're insane. So what? Your insanity has caused you to be a crazed killer. This is more reason to remove you from society, to end you in states that allow it, not less reason."

[Brock]

Ted Bundy was clearly insane, it didn't stop Florida from baking him.

[Dayze]

mmm Bundy Cakes