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Only Chief fans would really behind a QB with a sub 80 QBR in his 8th season
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Would an idiot do that?
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I don't think that group of people exists... at least not nearly in the number you or anyone else might be thinking. Everything is hyperbole and absolutes around here, but there are plenty of people who really, really want to be wrong, but are lumped into this mostly illusory group of haters who must be happier when the Chiefs lose just so they can push their agenda.
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I want to be a team that's looked upon as the pats, steelers, etc, in that we are a playoff constant with a chance every year. I don't think Alex can do that, but I'm not sure yet if he can't. So again, I do agree, I just don't think we will know until January or later either way, so I'm not going to get too upset either way. |
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The fact is what has happened in the past has NOTHING to do with what will happen to this team. Every year is different. Every team is different. Any team can win in any way. Alex Smith is not to blame for the failures of others. He is not Steve Bono,Elvis Grbac,Matt Cassel. He is Alex Smith he is undefeated as the QB of the Kansas City Chiefs. Sorry haters it's fact. Whats going to happen I don't know. But I do know that the past will have NOTHING to do with it. |
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Would an idiot do that?
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And yeah, the games vs Denver and Indy will go a long way, and then hopefully there's a good test in the playoffs... not that he needs to win all of those or even one of those this year, but being competitive would be a nice start.
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We've seen this before This is the 90s We know how this worked out with Marty Just like Bono, Grbac and Cassel We know where game managers leave us The inevitable downfall against real competition etc. Your basic 'I know the future because I'm traumatized by the past.'
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The Giants and Seahawks did that to Alex in the 2011 regular season as well. |
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Would an idiot do that?
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It feels like I've been on this ride before, because it's basically the only one I know as a Chiefs fan, but as jaded or apathetic or even skeptical as I might be, I have no reason to resist or rationalize away the kind of play it takes to win big games once I see it. I'd love to hand over hundreds of dollars (again) to watch it all live, but they'll have to earn it first (this time). The argument has definitely gone to such ridiculous lengths that you don't really know where people stand... hell, sometimes I start with a simple point like how I want to see some consistency from Smith, and after an hour or two of responding to hyperbole and strawmen, I start feeling like I'm hating on the guy, when I'm only trying to bring the conversation back from one far end of the spectrum or the other.
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A lot of it boils down to whether you view a team as a collection of compartments or as a holistic entity. With the former, of course, nothing the defense is doing has anything to do with the offense, or the passing game, or the QB. But I have a long and consistent record of holding that an NFL team is like an automobile engine. When it's out of tune, it's ALL out of tune. An AMG W-16 with a bad timing gear is as useless as a Yugo 4-banger. Our quest as fans is to keep our eyes peeled to be the first to yell 'land-ho' from the crow's nest when the pieces come together. Our previous 13-3 flame-outs bear little resemblance to 2013 Chiefs FB. There weren't abysmal seasons preceding. There weren't massive coaching and philosophy changes in between. There wasn't over 1/2 the roster changing, with all the good being retained and ALL the chaff being discarded. I was in St.L. when the greatest show turned the 4-12 Rams into SB champs. They had twice as many wins in the season prior as we have. I also saw how important both a dominant D and being clutch was when they beat the Bucs, what, . . . 3-2, 4-7, . . . some other MLB score [I know, 11-6, Ricky effing Proehl and all that], to go to the SB and win on a defensive stand. I also saw the 2000 Ravens. I saw the Pats completely break down the self-same Rams, minus a dominant D, in 2001/02, in a room filled with Rams bandwagoneers. Oddest schadenfreude of my life, a room full of friends and a team I liked, but certain that Belichek had their number. Sad to see so many disappointed faces, but deep down glad I still knew football. My rambling has turned Rico-esque. But my point is, I still have a good feeling about this iteration, I'm not some Kool-aid drinking 'truefan,' and we're all going to be in the dark until the rubber meets the road in January. Enjoy the ride, . . . or don't. But cut out the 'are we there yet' [ie, have we lost yet] shit.
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As it was then, as it is now.
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I'll be back.
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In YPA, TDs, completion percentage, QB rating...all the things that matter the most in evaluating QB play. Below average. Statistically. Get it right.
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You are surprisingly like an Ashton Kutcher fan who saw 'Jobs' and is moaning for the day when Ashton gets his Oscar.
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