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Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-22-2013, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

You are surprisingly like an Ashton Kutcher fan who saw 'Jobs' and is moaning for the day when Ashton gets his Oscar.

Horrible comparison. Meh to you.

Hammock Parties · 10-22-2013, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Go back and watch, the playoff game against the Oilers, really watch. I'd submit that if Alex Smith had played the EXACT same game against Houston yesterday that Montana did against old Houston in 1993, we'd have the same moaning about winning despite the QB we have now.

Montana had 299 yards and 3 TD in that game.

Against the NFL's #4 defense.

Alex Smith is currently struggling to throw for 0 TD against Houston's modern day franchise.

10-22-2013, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

Montana had 299 yards and 3 TD in that game.

Against the NFL's #4 defense.

Alex Smith is currently struggling to throw for 0 TD against Houston's modern day franchise.

If Smith had thrown for 3 TD's Sunday we would be 7-0. Is he on your fantasy team or what? I haven't seen this much whining about shit that doesn't matter since it was discovered that one of those teletubby things might be gay.

**Baby Lee** · 10-22-2013, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

Montana had 299 yards and 3 TD in that game.

Against the NFL's #4 defense.

Alex Smith is currently struggling to throw for 0 TD against Houston's modern day franchise.

LMGTFY

Hammock Parties · 10-22-2013, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

If Smith had thrown for 3 TD's Sunday we would be 7-0. Is he on your fantasy team or what? I haven't seen this much whining about shit that doesn't matter since it was discovered that one of those teletubby things might be gay.

Sorry, but a QBs ability to generate TD passes definitely matters.

There's a reason Alex's career high is 18, and he's currently on pace for just 16. He's just not very good.

10-22-2013, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

Sorry, but a QBs ability to generate TD passes definitely matters.

There's a reason Alex's career high is 18, and he's currently on pace for just 16. He's just not very good.

A team's ability to generate W's is the important thing here and they're flawless. Sit back and enjoy the journey. There are only two teams with pro-bowlers at every position and nobody watches that game anyway.

splatbass · 10-22-2013, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat;10115351/

I'd love to hand over hundreds of dollars (again) to watch it all live, but they'll have to earn it first (this time).

And if they manage to win it all this year you will have missed it due to stubbornness, cynicism or whatever. And then it may be another 40 years.

Enjoy it while you can, success could be fleeting and you will have missed it.

Saccopoo · 10-22-2013, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

If Smith had thrown for 3 TD's Sunday we would be 7-0. Is he on your fantasy team or what? I haven't seen this much whining about shit that doesn't matter since it was discovered that one of those teletubby things might be gay.

GOB · 10-23-2013, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

I've defintely said that a lot, out of 1) amazement at how some determined the opposite was true after the first week or two, and it really is different this time (of course, stating the absolute one way or the other that early is ridiculous either way), 2) defending my position that I haven't bought in and might actually be waiting several games before making any firm opinions, and 3) yeah, frustration that I follow a team that clearly doesn't get it when it comes to one of the most important positions in sports.

It feels like I've been on this ride before, because it's basically the only one I know as a Chiefs fan, but as jaded or apathetic or even skeptical as I might be, I have no reason to resist or rationalize away the kind of play it takes to win big games once I see it. I'd love to hand over hundreds of dollars (again) to watch it all live, but they'll have to earn it first (this time).

The argument has definitely gone to such ridiculous lengths that you don't really know where people stand... hell, sometimes I start with a simple point like how I want to see some consistency from Smith, and after an hour or two of responding to hyperbole and strawmen, I start feeling like I'm hating on the guy, when I'm only trying to bring the conversation back from one far end of the spectrum or the other.

I get why you haven't bought in and I respect that.

Regarding (3), however, I think you are making a lot of assumptions. Not saying that to chastise you but to encourage you. We don't know that a first round QB isn't on the FO's mind. That we didn't draft one this year and that the GM has encouraging words for their current starter doesn't mean anything really. It could be they think Alex is enough. It could mean they think shoring up the OL is more important. It could mean they thought it was a weak draft class to take the chance on.

I don't know if we are going to win the Superbowl. I don't think Alex Smith is the best QB in the league but I don't think he's as terrible as the OP wants to believe. I think the QB position is important but not as important as the fantasy football generation makes it out to be and measuring it certainly goes beyond the simple metrics they bandy around. I also don't know that we'd be in a better position with another QB's save HOF caliber ones which are exceedingly difficult to land.

What I do know is John Dorsey and Andy Reid are making more good decisions than bad and the team is sitting undefeated. I also know that every season is a journey and both players and the team are not static but will change. That's all enough for me to be a little bit hopeful and happy watching this team. Hope at some point you feel the same.

Chest Rockwell · 10-23-2013, 05:32 AM

The **** is this? People having rational conversation on this site? In this thread no less?

Sense don't go roun' here, sense dog. Savvy?

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-23-2013, 06:28 AM

If the Chiefs happen to win the SB, Wtf would we argue about?

The NFL would place an asterisk by the win, because Alex had fewer than 20 TD passes.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 10-23-2013, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Maybe you're right, maybe I've been overeacting to comments like;

We've seen this before
This is the 90s
We know how this worked out with Marty
Just like Bono, Grbac and Cassel
We know where game managers leave us
The inevitable downfall against real competition

etc.

Your basic 'I know the future because I'm traumatized by the past.'

You probably have been. Anyone who is a fan of this team has suffered from battered fan syndrome for a very long time.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-23-2013, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Maybe you're right, maybe I've been overeacting to comments like;

We've seen this before
This is the 90s
We know how this worked out with Marty
Just like Bono, Grbac and Cassel
We know where game managers leave us
The inevitable downfall against real competition

etc.

Your basic 'I know the future because I'm traumatized by the past.'

I think about all of this, but I won't let it quell my excitement for the season now.

BigCatDaddy · 10-23-2013, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

If Smith had thrown for 3 TD's Sunday we would be 7-0. Is he on your fantasy team or what? I haven't seen this much whining about shit that doesn't matter since it was discovered that one of those teletubby things might be gay.

I always get a kick out of people saying "You're just looking for fantasy football numbers, those are meaningless". The top fantasy QB's are guys that often win SB's and are heading to the HOF. Yeah, that must suck.

warrior · 10-23-2013, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

If the Chiefs happen to win the SB, Wtf would we argue about?

The NFL would place an asterisk by the win, because Alex had fewer than 20 TD passes.

Yep and only a select few would care the rest would enjoy winning the SB

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