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Old 05-06-2013, 07:19 AM  
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Old 05-06-2013, 03:40 PM   #706
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He just said because it was a one run game and Shields had 103 pitches, he wanted to let the closer 'do his job."

And the closer 'didn't do his job."

So we lost.
Simple as that.
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Old 05-06-2013, 03:40 PM   #707
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I have a feeling had Shields marched back out and then gave up a 2 run HR or some shit this entire thread would have veered off into a "omg why not turn to our lockdown closer Ned! ****!"

agreed?
Why don't you read the posts prior to the 9th innning to find out? Everyone wanted Shields to stay in.
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Old 05-06-2013, 03:40 PM   #708
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someone would have yelled that, but he would have been shouted down.
I'm just saying.

blaming the manager for every loss is so ****ing cliche

we had a 90% chance to win once Holland came out

we lost

it happens

I thought Shields should have tried for the shutout...but we have a pretty damn good guy who pitches the 9th and it didn't work out

still won another series
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Old 05-06-2013, 03:40 PM   #709
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When he said that, he was talking about when the tying run is on base and the lead run is at the plate. He said he usually would have pulled Guthrie so that he wouldn't have to take a loss, except Guthrie never had a shutout before.

Thats fine, a lot of managers think that way. In that case, send Shields out there until anyone gets on base.
And 100 out of 100 times, Yost hasn't had a hot James Shields as his starting pitcher when he's made the decision.
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Old 05-06-2013, 03:40 PM   #710
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If you can do nothing and almost certainly win, you do it. You don't start bringing more uncertainty into the situation. Yost took a known and made it an unknown, and it cost us a win.
That's what i say about handling the pitching staff all the time

If they are pitching well and aren't past their pitch count then you leave them in

unnecessary pitching changes are an unneeded risk

Yost loves to make changes whether they are needed or not
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Old 05-06-2013, 03:40 PM   #711
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Probably because he was throwing strikes, and yesterday he was not.
Yea, Alex cracked his bat on the second pitch, which was in the zone.
Esky went down on about four pitches that were out of the zone.
Butler just missed on one that was in the zone. I guess I would have just liked to have seen us take a few extra pitches. Especially Alex.
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Old 05-06-2013, 03:40 PM   #712
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Old 05-06-2013, 03:41 PM   #713
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(I'm not listening, but someone relay his comments.)

Please say that Shields told you that he was done. Even if he didn't, lie to me, Ned.
Said if it was a 2 or 3 run lead Shields probably goes back out
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I'm still waiting to hear Ned's explanation for the ninth inning, if pulling Shields was solely his call, it could be a bad sign for the season awaiting us.


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Old 05-06-2013, 03:41 PM   #716
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I have a feeling had Shields marched back out and then gave up a 2 run HR or some shit this entire thread would have veered off into a "omg why not turn to our lockdown closer Ned! ****!"

agreed?
Absolutely not. I said before the inning Shields absolutely should be back out there in the 9th. 100%, no doubt about it. If James gives up a baserunner, then it's a gray area and I wouldn't complain either way.
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I'm just saying.

blaming the manager for every loss is so ****ing cliche
You are preaching to the choir, man. Most of the time I'm rolling my eyes and saying its not Ned's fault.

Today, I can't do that, I gotta step aside and let the torch and pitchfork-wielding mob have at him.
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I would have much rather see James Shields get beat going down swinging than bring in Holland, who clearly didn't have it today. That's on the pitching coach and the manager.
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Holland=Farnsworth
That was the first run he's given up in a month
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