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Old 07-13-2013, 08:25 PM  
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Victor Cruz tweets about Zimmerman

@TeamVic: Thoroughly confused. Zimmerman doesn't last a year before the hood catches up to him.



He deleted it minutes after he tweeted and we wait until we hear he was hacked.
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:27 AM   #706
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Messier : Yeah my wife was just kidnapped and driven away in a car. I'm going to follow them.

911 Operator : We don't need you to do that.

Messier: Okay. Sounds good. They went west. Let know if you find her.

How is that situation like this?
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:28 AM   #707
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Messier : Yeah my wife was just kidnapped and driven away in a car. I'm going to follow them.

911 Operator : We don't need you to do that.

Messier: Okay. Sounds good. They went west. Let know if you find her.

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Old 07-17-2013, 10:29 AM   #708
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How is that situation like this?
You said that Zimmerman should have followed the orders that the dispatcher gave him. If the dispatcher told you not to follow the kidnapper who took your wife.....would you listen to him?
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:29 AM   #709
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How is that situation like this?
Oh, I see. So now it's a judgement call if you should follow the operators advice? You can't have your cake and eat it to man.
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:31 AM   #710
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Also, where in the second quote does Zimmerman make it clear he intends to keep following Martin?
From the context of the call, Z doesn't know where he is going to be when the cops show up. If he was just going to wait in his truck, he would know exactly where he was going to be (he tells the dispatcher where his truck is). That implies that he going to try to keep tabs on Martin, imo.

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Old 07-17-2013, 10:33 AM   #711
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If he was staying where he was at....he would have just told the dispatcher where he was at.
He could also just mean he'll meet them somewhere else. I don't know, but I think if Zimmerman had said, I'm still following, they'd have repeated what they told him before.
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:36 AM   #712
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He could also just mean he'll meet them somewhere else. I don't know, but I think if Zimmerman had said, I'm still following, they'd have repeated what they told him before.
He told the dispatcher where his truck would be but wanted the police to call him when they got there so he could tell them where he would be (i.e. not in his truck).
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:37 AM   #713
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You said that Zimmerman should have followed the orders that the dispatcher gave him. If the dispatcher told you not to follow the kidnapper who took your wife.....would you listen to him?
No, but personal involvement is different. I also would follow and stay on the line. Zimmerman did more than follow.

So are you saying Zimmerman made no mistakes?
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:38 AM   #714
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He told the dispatcher where his truck would be but wanted the police to call him when they got there so he could tell them where he would be (i.e. not in his truck).
So he wouldn't be where his truck was.
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:40 AM   #715
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Oh, I see. So now it's a judgement call if you should follow the operators advice? You can't have your cake and eat it to man.
Are you saying in all cases ignore the operator?
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:41 AM   #716
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So he wouldn't be where his truck was.
He got out of his truck to follow Martin (which the dispatcher knew). I guess if he wasn't going to go back to truck, it was because it was a nice evening out and he was just going to go out for a stroll while waiting for the cops to show up.
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No, but personal involvement is different. I also would follow and stay on the line. Zimmerman did more than follow.

So are you saying Zimmerman made no mistakes?
Exactly what did he that was more than following? He followed.....Martin jumped him and he defended himself.

I've already ****ing claimed that he made a mistake. In my mind...Martin made more.
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:44 AM   #718
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Oh, I see. So now it's a judgement call if you should follow the operators advice? You can't have your cake and eat it to man.
I was offered an example of the person I love most in life as a comparison to a suspicious looking person not committing a crime, and my reaction should be the same?
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:46 AM   #719
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Exactly what did he that was more than following? He followed.....Martin jumped him and he defended himself.

I've already ****ing claimed that he made a mistake. In my mind...Martin made more.
This is where I am too. It's too bad that when Martin took off running while Z was still in his truck, he didn't just run all the way to where he was staying.
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He got out of his truck to follow Martin (which the dispatcher knew). I guess if he wasn't going to go back to truck, it was because it was a nice evening out and he was just going to go out for a stroll while waiting for the cops to show up.
Its as easy to say he'd meet them at the front of the complex or elsewhere, as assume he meant he plans to continue following.
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