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**Tribal Warfare** · 03-06-2013, 03:25 AM

Chiefs GM Dorsey aims to ‘establish a winning culture’
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
In re-signing wide receiver Dwayne Bowe and punter Dustin Colquitt to long-term contracts, general manager John Dorsey was doing more than retaining two of the Chiefs’ better players.

He was also trying to send a message to those who follow them.

“What we are trying to do here is establish a winning culture,” Dorsey said. “Hopefully, as we go along here, players will understand that. It shows the players that if you perform at a high level and you do your part, this organization is willing to do its part, too.”

Dorsey and the Chiefs continued their flurry of financial business Tuesday by agreeing on terms of a contract restructure with Tyson Jackson, allowing the Chiefs to retain the veteran defensive end as well. Dorsey wouldn’t confirm the move and exact figures were not available but a source familiar with the deal said it cuts greatly into Jackson’s salary cap figure, which had been $17.47 million.

The recent moves, including the trade with San Francisco for quarterback Alex Smith and the designation of left tackle Branden Albert as the franchise player, represent a new way of doing business for the Chiefs. Under former general manager Scott *****, the Chiefs were usually flush with salary cap room but didn’t always accommodate their better players with expiring contracts.

The Chiefs under ***** did re-sign linebacker Tamba Hali and cornerback Brandon Flowers to market contracts, but re-signed linebacker Derrick Johnson and Jamaal Charles with deals that were favorable to the team.

Last year they lost cornerback Brandon Carr as a free agent and retained Bowe only on a one-year contract as the franchise player.

It’s entirely possible that if ***** was still running the franchise, the Chiefs wouldn’t have traded for Smith, Bowe would be the franchise player and Albert and Colquitt would be preparing to become free agents.

The contracts given to Bowe and Colquitt are impressive for the players. Bowe’s five-year is reportedly worth $56 million and includes $26 million in guarantees. That’s the third richest for a wide receiver.

Colquitt’s five-year deal is worth $18.75 million and makes him the NFL’s highest-paid punter.

Colquitt said he was convinced when last season ended that he would become a free agent and move on to another team. A conversation with Dorsey began to change his mind.

“He basically said that he doesn’t know what’s gone on in the past here but that he was going to do things a certain way now,” Colquitt said.

Dorsey then finished the job on Colquitt with a large contract offer. There are risks in signing older players to lucrative, long-term contracts but Dorsey said he wasn’t particularly concerned with Bowe and Colquitt.

“When you do something like this, there’s risk and there’s reward,” Dorsey said. “When you have the caliber of coach like we have in Andy Reid, you’re going to make these types of personnel decisions because I believe in Andy and the coaching staff he assembled. These are good coaches and they’re going to maximize the abilities of our players.”

Dorsey said the Chiefs had the moves with Bowe, Albert and Colquitt in mind since shortly after he and Reid arrived in Kansas City.

“This was the first phase of that plan,” Dorsey said. “That plan was to take care of those players we felt could help us.

“By doing the moves we did, it gives us great flexibility. That’s first and foremost. We can do many different options as the league year begins and as free agency begins. It gives us options when the draft comes along.”

Bowe cut short a tropical vacation to return to Kansas City on Tuesday and meet with Dorsey and Reid.

“I find him to be a very engaging young man,” Dorsey said. “He’s a receiver and receivers have unique personalities. But he’s a very talented guy. We sat and talked. I told him it’s his responsibility to uphold his end of the bargain. He said he understood the challenge ahead and he totally embraced that challenge.

“He is ready to take that position of being one of the top receivers in professional football.”

Albert missed five starts late last season with back spasms, but Dorsey said the Chiefs have no concerns about his ability to play a full season.

“His back is fine,” Dorsey said. “He passed our physical.”

**jAZ** · 03-06-2013, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

“When you do something like this, there’s risk and there’s reward,” Dorsey said. “When you have the caliber of coach like we have in Andy Reid, you’re going to make these types of personnel decisions because I believe in Andy and the coaching staff he assembled. These are good coaches and they’re going to maximize the abilities of our players.”

That's a very interesting point. That the higher caliber of a coach you have, the more it reduces certain risks associated with player development.

My sense is that this is also the "Patriot Way" and Pioli's biggest failure of all was bringing in Todd Haley, who had a seemingly volatile player-coach past.

It's obvious that one coach was able to maximize MC's potential during his time here, and it wasn't Todd Haley nor was it Romeo Crennel.

Of all of the complaints people have had about Pioli, I have always given him far more liberty and trust than others, over a longer period of time. But for me, that changed when it became clear that he wasn't going to be able to hire the right coach.

Perhaps NE ultimately resolved that issue by starting with the coach. Which is how Clark handled it this time.

Color Red · 03-06-2013, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

**Note to self** You have been ****ed and let down by this team every time you have gotten all fired up and excited about the moves for the last 43 years. be cool, be cool and maintain.

If they draft a Qb at 1.1, I am going to return to all out homer again, can't help it. The last few days have been pretty cool, but it is still about the long term plans at QB.

You must be able to just go out and be a fan of any team you choose. I cannot. I am and will be a Chiefs fan. They are like my family. If they are jacked, they are jacked. I want them to be well, and do well. When they go two-and-fourteen, I sit in front of the TV and watch them lose. Since the beginning.

**jAZ** · 03-06-2013, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

This is further proof that ***** was the cheap **** and not Clark.

I always viewed it the way the draft board seems to work. And actually, it's how I was handling my FFL draft board (when I was putting effort into it).

Look at the past performance of all the players and rank them based on how much better or worse they are then the other options remaining avialable to you. If your guy is marginally better than a slightly lesser option in FA, then dropping back to the lesser guy might save lots of money and only slightly decrease performance.

Bargain hunting at the marginal positions, with the intention of loading up on the critical positions.

I'm not sure we ever got to the second part of that strategy, for whatever reason.

Rasputin · 03-06-2013, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I don't entirely agree.

I think each individual QB is differnt, and the developmental process has to be handled differntly in each situation.

I believe that Mark Sanchez was ****ed by starting from day, and would have been far better off if he had been given at least a full season to watch and learn, though 2 seasons would have been better.

If he can out duel Alex Smiff in preseason then why not make the #1 QB draft pick a starter? That would be the reason to have open competition. If he can't beat out Alex Smiff then yes I would agree to let him sit and wait for his opportunity.

I personally like to watch rooks make mistakes and learn and grow from them. Part of the proccess to develop. I want to see the lights go on. I don't expect a rook to be all that great his first year. It would be cool if he does out QBd the other guy.

**Rausch** · 03-06-2013, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

nOObs.

I've only got documentation since 01.

I've been pissed since he who shall not be named got me kicked out of my house when he could't ****ing hit an xp...

Rasputin · 03-06-2013, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I've only got documentation since 01.

I've been pissed since he who shall not be named got me kicked out of my house when he could't ****ing hit an xp...

Are you talking about Lin Eliott?

**Rausch** · 03-06-2013, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Are you talking about Lin Eliott?

My you be raped by angry AIDS carrying pandas...

milkman · 03-06-2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

If he can out duel Alex Smiff in preseason then why not make the #1 QB draft pick a starter? That would be the reason to have open competition. If he can't beat out Alex Smiff then yes I would agree to let him sit and wait for his opportunity.

I personally like to watch rooks make mistakes and learn and grow from them. Part of the proccess to develop. I want to see the lights go on. I don't expect a rook to be all that great his first year. It would be cool if he does out QBd the other guy.

I am only addressing the assertion that rookie QBs develop by playing.

I don't believe that Geno is one that needs the pine time to devop, but ther are talented QBs through the years that have busted because of the pressure.

Some of those guys needed to mature a bit before taking on the responsibilty thrust on them as starters from the first day.

milkman · 03-06-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I've only got documentation since 01.

I've been pissed since he who shall not be named got me kicked out of my house when he could't ****ing hit an xp...

Tattoo is right.

It is Linn Elliot.

Dark Horse · 03-06-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

What is this "Winning Culture" of which they speak???

It is a little known concept around here where good players are compensated for good performance, theoreticaly boosting player morale and causing them to want to stay and play for the team.

Dark Horse · 03-06-2013, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Are you talking about Lin Eliott?

You should probably go wash your filthy hands after typing that!

**DaFace** · 03-06-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Colquitt said he was convinced when last season ended that he would become a free agent and move on to another team. A conversation with Dorsey began to change his mind.

“He basically said that he doesn’t know what’s gone on in the past here but that he was going to do things a certain way now,” Colquitt said.

Wait...so we're going to try and hold onto our top talent now? What a novel idea...

Rasputin · 03-06-2013, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I am only addressing the assertion that rookie QBs develop by playing.

I don't believe that Geno is one that needs the pine time to devop, but ther are talented QBs through the years that have busted because of the pressure.

Some of those guys needed to mature a bit before taking on the responsibilty thrust on them as starters from the first day.

I don't disagree with you MM. What I don't like is the term "ride the pine" it's cliche and Chiefs fans act like they must "ride the pine" I hate that term. You are right about it being individual speaking different for each. Personaly I want to see if the guy can handle pressure and get up when he is knocked down. I don't want to waste time waiting to see him take the field like we do with Stanzi. Play him when you are 2 & 12 with two games to go.

Got off track cuzz riduclous Stanzi didn't get to suit up and for a series or two get on the field. Little rant on why the **** could we not see Stanzi play one game? We would have an idea if he would be worth a crap or not.

Rasputin · 03-06-2013, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Horse

You should probably go wash your filthy hands after typing that!

Why? Linn Eliott is not the reason we havn't won a Super Bowl in 40 years. Chiefs fans can get over it Linn Eliott is not the boogy man.

Reerun_KC · 03-06-2013, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Why? Linn Eliott is not the reason we havn't won a Super Bowl in 40 years. Chiefs fans can get over it Linn Eliott is not the boogy man.

Marty was more to blame for that game than Eliott....

I would buy Eliott a beer and kick Marty in the nuts... F Marty and his play never to win anything attitude...

He is one of the reasons this fanbase is so chickenshit when it comes to QB's...

03-06-2013, 03:25 AM
Tribal Warfare The Boom Boom Room Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $362813	Teicher: Chiefs GM Dorsey aims to ‘establish a winning culture’ Chiefs GM Dorsey aims to ‘establish a winning culture’ By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star In re-signing wide receiver Dwayne Bowe and punter Dustin Colquitt to long-term contracts, general manager John Dorsey was doing more than retaining two of the Chiefs’ better players. He was also trying to send a message to those who follow them. “What we are trying to do here is establish a winning culture,” Dorsey said. “Hopefully, as we go along here, players will understand that. It shows the players that if you perform at a high level and you do your part, this organization is willing to do its part, too.” Dorsey and the Chiefs continued their flurry of financial business Tuesday by agreeing on terms of a contract restructure with Tyson Jackson, allowing the Chiefs to retain the veteran defensive end as well. Dorsey wouldn’t confirm the move and exact figures were not available but a source familiar with the deal said it cuts greatly into Jackson’s salary cap figure, which had been $17.47 million. The recent moves, including the trade with San Francisco for quarterback Alex Smith and the designation of left tackle Branden Albert as the franchise player, represent a new way of doing business for the Chiefs. Under former general manager Scott ***, the Chiefs were usually flush with salary cap room but didn’t always accommodate their better players with expiring contracts. The Chiefs under * did re-sign linebacker Tamba Hali and cornerback Brandon Flowers to market contracts, but re-signed linebacker Derrick Johnson and Jamaal Charles with deals that were favorable to the team. Last year they lost cornerback Brandon Carr as a free agent and retained Bowe only on a one-year contract as the franchise player. It’s entirely possible that if *** was still running the franchise, the Chiefs wouldn’t have traded for Smith, Bowe would be the franchise player and Albert and Colquitt would be preparing to become free agents. The contracts given to Bowe and Colquitt are impressive for the players. Bowe’s five-year is reportedly worth $56 million and includes $26 million in guarantees. That’s the third richest for a wide receiver. Colquitt’s five-year deal is worth $18.75 million and makes him the NFL’s highest-paid punter. Colquitt said he was convinced when last season ended that he would become a free agent and move on to another team. A conversation with Dorsey began to change his mind. “He basically said that he doesn’t know what’s gone on in the past here but that he was going to do things a certain way now,” Colquitt said. Dorsey then finished the job on Colquitt with a large contract offer. There are risks in signing older players to lucrative, long-term contracts but Dorsey said he wasn’t particularly concerned with Bowe and Colquitt. “When you do something like this, there’s risk and there’s reward,” Dorsey said. “When you have the caliber of coach like we have in Andy Reid, you’re going to make these types of personnel decisions because I believe in Andy and the coaching staff he assembled. These are good coaches and they’re going to maximize the abilities of our players.” Dorsey said the Chiefs had the moves with Bowe, Albert and Colquitt in mind since shortly after he and Reid arrived in Kansas City. “This was the first phase of that plan,” Dorsey said. “That plan was to take care of those players we felt could help us. “By doing the moves we did, it gives us great flexibility. That’s first and foremost. We can do many different options as the league year begins and as free agency begins. It gives us options when the draft comes along.” Bowe cut short a tropical vacation to return to Kansas City on Tuesday and meet with Dorsey and Reid. “I find him to be a very engaging young man,” Dorsey said. “He’s a receiver and receivers have unique personalities. But he’s a very talented guy. We sat and talked. I told him it’s his responsibility to uphold his end of the bargain. He said he understood the challenge ahead and he totally embraced that challenge. “He is ready to take that position of being one of the top receivers in professional football.” Albert missed five starts late last season with back spasms, but Dorsey said the Chiefs have no concerns about his ability to play a full season. “His back is fine,” Dorsey said. “He passed our physical.”
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