Chiefs Giving Alex the 'Joe Flacco Treatment' - Page 5

pugsnotdrugs19 · 06-04-2014, 06:31 PM

The contract talks between the Chiefs and Alex Smith is our big story right now. Especially with his old squad signing Kaepernick today.. this situation gets more and more interesting. A couple of observations of our team...

Defensively, we are as stacked as we are going to be for a long time this season. Chances are we won't play another season with all the talent we currently have on that side again (Hali older, Houston/Berry/Poe with extensions in the nearer future)

Offensively, if all the OTA talk is real and Alex is really playing as well as they say (and the WR's such as Bowe), we are a solid offensive line from perhaps a top 10 offense.

It's fair to say the 'window' is as wide as it will ever be. With possible big contributions from Kelce, Commings, Knile, and other 1st/2nd year players, we may have a Super Bowl bound squad. Which is what leads me to this though: Let the season play out before signing Alex. If he plays well, a playoff win or two? Sign him for 100 million. If he wins a Super Bowl? Give him whatever he wants and a key to the city. If he and the team bombs? Let him walk and use Murray or Bray, use the money to keep our defensive stars.

This is the right plan, imo. Discuss.

OldSchool · 06-05-2014, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Your take on the Cardinals would suggest they have 2-3 good players. We have 5 minimum.

Rams is a projection, especially with Donald.

Most all of those are based on what you think will happen, like me. So who wins? Play the games and we'll see.

Have you even watched the Cardinals' defense play? If you did, you wouldn't even question that they are a better defense than we are.

Rams aren't a projection, they are scary. The have the league's sack leader from 2013. They already have a young DT who flashes dominance in Michael Brockers; they just added the best interior pass rusher in the draft in Aaron Donald who also happens to be the most technically advanced DL player from the 2014 draft class, which means he will make an impact sooner rather than later. They have Chris Long manning the LDE position and is a good pass rusher himself.

Their front 4 alone will give every team trouble in pass protection.

saphojunkie · 06-05-2014, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Seattle
San Francisco
St Louis
Carolina
Arizona
The Jets

That's 6 off the top of my head.

Houston.

**Rausch** · 06-05-2014, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

And the Rams got cocksmashed by the Cowboys, that we beat.

Fail. It's the NFL buddy, you don't come to play you get your ass kicked no matter what.

We beat the Cowboys by 1 ****ing point.

The Rams, a team I absolutely hate and despise, beat the Colts by ****ing 30 pts.

And unlike us they finished...

O.city · 06-05-2014, 10:11 AM

The Rams might have the best defense in be nfcw next year. It's pretty scary

WhiteWhale · 06-05-2014, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

If you told me I could trade the entire Chiefs defensive roster for the Jets, I'm making that trade without even giving it a second thought.

The players I mentioned are more talented than their counterparts on the Jets, but you take all 11 starters and they are more talented as a whole, and have more depth.

I would not.

Finding guys with abilities like Houston and Poe (combined with their youth) is much harder than finding role players and depth.

If Rex Ryan was running KC"s defense the results would be so much different. He would murder the world with some of the personnel we have. He'd be getting more out of our guys and hiding their weaknesses so much better. Our depth probably wouldn't look nearly as poor.

Alas, all we got was a poor imitation.

Chief Roundup · 06-05-2014, 10:12 AM

So are you sure you aren't on some drugs or were you and it got our face pushed in like a pug and it left your brain in the shape to come up with the horribly funny things you state in the OP.

**Rausch** · 06-05-2014, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

The Rams might have the best defense in be nfcw next year. It's pretty scary

And we get to play them, and the Seahawks, AND the 49'ers, AND at worst a very respectable and young Cards defense...

pugsnotdrugs19 · 06-05-2014, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

So are you sure you aren't on some drugs or were you and it got our face pushed in like a pug and it left your brain in the shape to come up with the horribly funny things you state in the OP.

Nah man not gonna lie I don't need to know anything about you to asure that I'm smarter than you could ever hope to be, because life does go beyond football.

Chief Roundup · 06-05-2014, 10:15 AM

Some of you all are over estimating what the Cardinals defense is going to able to do. They lost Karlos Dansby again as well as Darryl Washington. The middle of that defense is in going to be trouble for them.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 06-05-2014, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

We beat the Cowboys by 1 ****ing point.

The Rams, a team I absolutely hate and despise, beat the Colts by ****ing 30 pts.

And unlike us they finished...

And, again, the Cowboys beat the Rams by 24.

Please, get a new argument or stop.

Chief Roundup · 06-05-2014, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Nah man not gonna lie I don't need to know anything about you to asure that I'm smarter than you could ever hope to be, because life does go beyond football.

Yeah that is the reason you are and have been getting bitch slapped around by the board.
Try again Alice

ThaVirus · 06-05-2014, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

The problem is the rest are liabilities...

Yeah, I'm inclined to believe this here. We're absolutely awesome at a few positions, but pretty much trotting out garbage at several others.

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Your take on the Cardinals would suggest they have 2-3 good players. We have 5 minimum.

Rams is a projection, especially with Donald.

Most all of those are based on what you think will happen, like me. So who wins? Play the games and we'll see.

Darnell Dockett, Calais Campbell, John Abraham, Patrick Peterson, Antonio Cromartie, and Tyran Mathieu. All of those guys are somewhere between very good and elite.

Plus, last season they had Daryl Washington, Karlos Dansby, and Yeremiah Bell who were all also pretty good.

I mean, they had the #1 rushing defense in a division with the two teams that run the most in the league. That would be something like us having the #1 passing defense in the league in our division with Peyton and Rivers.

ThaVirus · 06-05-2014, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Have you even watched the Cardinals' defense play? If you did, you wouldn't even question that they are a better defense than we are.

Rams aren't a projection, they are scary. The have the league's sack leader from 2013. They already have a young DT who flashes dominance in Michael Brockers; they just added the best interior pass rusher in the draft in Aaron Donald who also happens to be the most technically advanced DL player from the 2014 draft class, which means he will make an impact sooner rather than later. They have Chris Long manning the LDE position and is a good pass rusher himself.

Their front 4 alone will give every team trouble in pass protection.

I'm pretty sure Robert Mathis was the sack leader by .5 last season.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 06-05-2014, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Yeah that is the reason you are and have been getting bitch slapped around by the board.
Try again Alice

The board that has literally no significance to a person's life or credibility? The board that has multiple so-called fans of this team with literally no faith in their players? I get it we aren't a top 5, maybe even 10 team right now but really? Why use your time on a team so many of you have no confidence in? All of the morons on here who think we have nothing while 90% of the guys getting paid to talk football give us a chance, yeah your opinion sure is something.

**Rausch** · 06-05-2014, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Darnell Dockett, Calais Campbell, John Abraham, Patrick Peterson, Antonio Cromartie, and Tyran Mathieu. All of those guys are somewhere between very good and elite.

Two years ago the two players I absolutely did not want in any round were Mathieu and Bray.

Ironic that the Badger could have been huge for us and Bray might be our best hope as a young QB prospect...

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Chief Roundup Admitted Planet Junky Join Date: Oct 2000 Casino cash: $1701627	Some of you all are over estimating what the Cardinals defense is going to able to do. They lost Karlos Dansby again as well as Darryl Washington. The middle of that defense is in going to be trouble for them. __________________ Fanaticism is nowhere. There is no tenderness or humanity in fanaticism.
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