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No, I knew Pioli would build a winner all along... I'm a PioliZombie! 29 24.58%
No, I took a wait and see, for at least one full season, maybe longer. 80 67.80%
No, this is a mirage, Pioli, Haley, Cassel, et al still suck. 2 1.69%
Yes, I over reacted. They know what they are doing. 7 5.93%
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Old 09-26-2010, 01:58 PM  
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Did you over-react to the work of Scott Pioli?
There were a whole lot of people who lost patience with Scott Pioli starting after the hiring of Todd Haley and the 1st pick in the 2009 draft.

The Haley Hire sucked.
The Tyson Jackson pick sucked.
The Cassel/Vrabel trade sucked.
The whole 2009 Draft sucked.
Tamba Hali sucks.
The Dexter McCluster pick sucked.
The Tony Moeaki pick sucked.
The moves on the OL sucked.
The majority of the 2010 draft sucked.
Playing Thomas Jones so much sucks.

What else am I missing?
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Old 12-19-2010, 07:53 PM   #61
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Hahahahahahahaah!

You want credit for taking a wait an see approach before the first season even began!?!

Bwahahahahah!.
Well, I don't want "credit" for it, but a lot of people were vilifying Pioli before a game had even been played.

Turns out they were right...at least last season.
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Old 12-19-2010, 07:55 PM   #62
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What?

Pioli shouldn't have to learn on the job or need to demonstrate an ability to grow.

He's not a rookie. He was the executive of the decade.

He's supposed to be nailing personnel decisions left and right.

I don't see a problem with being disappointed in the guy after it was clear his first year was an abortion, nor do I see a problem with sticking to the idea that he has a lot to prove after he failed to address the front seven this offseason.

Anyone who proclaims him a failure at this point is definitely jumping the gun. I don't think I'm doing that by saying I'm disappointed in what he's produced thus far, and reiterating my desire to see him prove something.

Most people here are going to be firmly in the guy's corner if we field a winning team next year. If he doesn't make the right personnel decisions this offseason it's not going to happen. Why? Because his first two years have been lacking. He can't get away with anything less than stellar at this point, because the competition going forward is going to be tougher.
Saying the second year has been lacking is beyond ridiculous. This team is significantly improved from last season, even if they're not there yet. Yet you continue to hammer this point in. Moeaki, Lilja, Berry, Kendrick Lewis, Shaun Smith. These are very good players and long-term answers. Arenas has been a terrific role player in the slot. Wiegmann and Thomas Jones have been valuable short-term additions. McCluster is a wait and see. Not to mention bringing in Weis and Crennel, which are looking like very good decisions.

Not bad considering that this entire offseason was built through the draft and bargain-basement free agency moves.
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Old 12-19-2010, 07:58 PM   #63
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It's ****ing ridiculous... some people seem like they are more concerned about being right or ridiculing someone's 6-month old opinion than what happens on the field.

People really need to get over themselves.
In complete fairness, it works both ways. When things weren't going well, there were plenty of critics willing to take a dig based on anything that resembled support for the way the Chiefs were running the team.
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:01 PM   #64
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Saying the second year has been lacking is beyond ridiculous.
We entered the year needing major upgrades in the front seven and at wide receiver.

Guess what?

We still need all of that shit.
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:54 PM   #65
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Well, I don't want "credit" for it, but a lot of people were vilifying Pioli before a game had even been played.

Turns out they were right...at least last season.
You were totally right. We didn't win the Super Bowl last year.
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:55 PM   #66
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We entered the year needing major upgrades in the front seven and at wide receiver.

Guess what?

We still need all of that shit.
You are totally right. We didn't address every area of need with a high-quality, long-term solution.
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Old 12-19-2010, 09:00 PM   #67
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It's ****ing ridiculous... some people seem like they are more concerned about being right or ridiculing someone's 6-month old opinion than what happens on the field.

People really need to get over themselves.
I think it depends on what that opinion was. If it was a long-term opinion (cut Cassel now! or somesuch stupid shit), they should be ridiculed. If someone noted "Cassel sucks today", then I agree.
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Old 12-19-2010, 09:06 PM   #68
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I think it depends on what that opinion was. If it was a long-term opinion (cut Cassel now! or somesuch stupid shit), they should be ridiculed. If someone noted "Cassel sucks today", then I agree.

Cassel sucked today?

Today was great for him; **** the stat line, play to win the game!
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Today was great for him; **** the stat line, play to win the game!
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We entered the year needing major upgrades in the front seven and at wide receiver.

Guess what?

We still need all of that shit.
And they ended up significantly upgrading the secondary, offensive line, bringing in a terrific downfield threat/blocker in Moeaki, bringing in a solid RB to keep Charles fresh, and bringing in some young guys with potential future upside in Asamoah and McCluster.

But by all means, the only measure of success for 2010 shouldn't be significant improvement. It should only be based on how we fill a few key positions.
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It's ****ing ridiculous... some people seem like they are more concerned about being right or ridiculing someone's 6-month old opinion than what happens on the field.

People really need to get over themselves.

Why the **** not? Whats wrong with being happy that you're right? Especially if you're right about the team being good. Add to the fact that the people who are right right now were insulted up and down the message board since Pioli was hired, I think they deserve the right to gloat.

If Sanchez or Clausen becomes a great QB, I expect the drafturbators to gloat about it. Nothing wrong with it.
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Why the **** not? Whats wrong with being happy that you're right? Especially if you're right about the team being good. Add to the fact that the people who are right right now were insulted up and down the message board since Pioli was hired, I think they deserve the right to gloat.

If Sanchez or Clausen becomes a great QB, I expect the drafturbators to gloat about it. Nothing wrong with it.
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Yeah, and they even scored an offensive touchdown for the first time in forever! Great day for you as a Jets' fan!!
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You are totally right. We didn't address every area of need with a high-quality, long-term solution.
Well, the fact remains that Pioli has been here for two years now and done precious little to upgrade the front seven.

Lock it up. Championship.
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Well, the fact remains that Pioli has been here for two years now and done precious little to upgrade the front seven.

Lock it up. Championship.
Dude, why don't you just go out and find a team you can stand behind?

It looks like nothing with the Chiefs will make you happy.
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